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Old 02-16-2013, 01:27 PM
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I think I have found an issue with these kits. I bought a complete kit for by 10 horse rebuild. So far I have been happy with the quality of the parts supplied, however my k301 has a normal oil pan, the the dipper on the rod hits the pan. I suppose that the rod was intended to be used with a deep sump pan. This shouldn't be a problem in my case as I think I have a deep sump pan I can put on. However if someone buys this kit and does not have a pile of donor engines, he would have to fork out some money for a different pan or get a different rod. I will try to contact this seller and discuss it with him, see if he can offer different rods or not. Correct me if I am wrong, but the seller needs to change the description on his ad as it states that the model suffix will not affect whether the kit will work or not. The suffix needs to be determined and a different rod will need to be offered. Again, everything else seems fine and I am happy with the purchase. This is just as much my goof as it was his.
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:31 PM
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What has anyone that has bought a kit doing for rod torque ? I contacted the seller of the kit and he said that the mfgr says just torque it and do not overtorque to 20% then torque to specs like the factory manual says to do. Anyone know just why the Kohler manual says to overtorque in the first place ?
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Old 02-22-2013, 04:26 PM
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Can you just trim the dipper to fit the short oil sump?
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Old 02-24-2013, 05:45 PM
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Anybody on the rod torque that bought one of these kits ?

That oil dipper might not be the only thing wrong with the rod, did you check every aspect of the rod over closely ? Including the rods big end oil clearance ?
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:29 AM
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Can you just trim the dipper to fit the short oil sump?

Yes, I do not see any issue with carefully trimming it. I already had everything torqued in place before I noticed it. I did not want to untorque the rod bolts, nor did I want mess with trying to cut the dipper and keep fines out of the block. It was easier in this case just to swap the pans.

Also, I emailed this seller over a week ago and have never heard back. He has good feedback on his profile, but he apparently isn't interested in addressing this issue. I haven't checked to see if the verbage has changed in his ad. I let him know that the ad is false when it states that the model suffix has no affect on the kit.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:00 PM
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I read the post about the longer dipper yesterday. Last week, I was googling rebuild kits, and found one kit that specifically stated you my have to shorten the dipper for some applications.

Haven't been able to find that link, if I do I will post it.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:18 PM
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http://shop.kustomlawnandgarden.com/...UNE-UP-k12.htm


"1-Connecting rod in size std or .010 WE ALSO OFFER A .020 ROD FOR $20 MORE ( NOTE! ) Some older kohler engines in cub and john deere may have a shorter dipper in which this rod must be cut off with a hack saw to exactly 2 inches. these are rare but compare your dipper to length of one in this kit!"
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:05 PM
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I believe the ebay seller should adopt a similar disclaimer.
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:31 PM
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No argument from me on that. Or at least include instructions with the kit.
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