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View Poll Results: What should I do about seals with the M18?
Inspect and replace if necessary 4 10.81%
Replace while the engine is out and they are accessible 11 29.73%
Just replace the flywheel one since it’s hardest to get at 2 5.41%
Leave them alone if they aren’t obviously leaking 11 29.73%
Bin the M18 and do a Hemi swap instead 9 24.32%
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Old 02-03-2018, 10:50 PM
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Seals are installed. Flywheel is back on and torqued. Mostly new nuts and bolts from McMaster.

Got the oil pressure switch installed, and it looks like the wiring harness is working like it's supposed to on the bench, so optimistic that will work great.

Tested the magneto today and got no spark and no continuity on the secondary. Magnets on the flywheel seem strong and consistent. I was already feeling a bit suspect about the magneto, so just went ahead and ordered a Kohler OEM replacement. Don't want to have to mess with that again. Not real convenient to get at when the engine is in the tractor.

Got the PTO cleaned up to put a bit of paint on it before I put it back on the engine. Also replaced the missing Packard 56 connector on it so I can just clip it into the wiring harness.

Still have to put the exhaust back on and then I'll be real close to seeing if it will run, once the magneto comes in.
Looking good!! Keep us posted!
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Thanks for documenting your build . Those of us (99%) who are not professional lawn mower mechanics appreciate learning stuff thru the experience of others such as yourself

Gonna be a hack of a nice tractor when you're done!
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Tested the magneto today and got no spark and no continuity on the secondary. .
Good call.

There's about a bazillion turns of very fine wire in a magneto winding so a winding opening up is not difficult to imagine. If this was the case however, it should have NOT run before.
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Good call.

There's about a bazillion turns of very fine wire in a magneto winding so a winding opening up is not difficult to imagine. If this was the case however, it should have NOT run before.
It would have ran before it failed..... ?? What do you mean? He didn't buy it running... It may have failed from sitting.
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Good call.

There's about a bazillion turns of very fine wire in a magneto winding so a winding opening up is not difficult to imagine. If this was the case however, it should have NOT run before.
Yeah I just have the PO story. I’m GUESSING that it failed from sitting and getting rusty. The story I was told is that it got parked due to the PTO not engaging, and then got stuck.

I don’t see anything that will stop it from running once I replace the ignition system at this point though.
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Those E-PTO's aren't cheap ... that story makes sense.

Glad you rescued it!
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Got it running today on the bench. Had to clean the carb out a bit. Concerned that the oil sentry switch never went off (ran it less than a minute at low rpm).

So went to drain the oil and put fresh in (oil was at full line and looked like new, so I didn’t bother to change it to see if it ran ok). Am I missing something or does this thing not have a bottom drain? Looks like there is one on the closure plate and one on the side. The mounting plate for the 1862 has a hole in it just like the 782 in the same place, but there’s no plug in the bottom.

I can’t imagine you would have pulled the plug out of the side of the crankcase and let oil go everywhere to change it in the 1862.

Need to put a gauge on it and see what it’s got for pressure I guess.
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Pulled the closing plate off this morning to have a look-see and it looks like the oil pump shaft wasn't turning with the engine for some reason.

There's some play in the shaft back and forth but I think that's somewhat normal. There's a few degrees of rotation freedom and then it catches and turns with the crank.

I'm thinking the oil pump gear somehow got damaged. Looks like I'll be splitting this one too to see what the situation is. Not so concerned that I need to replace the gear as I am if it ran for any amount of time with no oil pressure.
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Well, here's the problem:



My hope is that it got parked immediately after it made a bad noise and the oil pressure light came on. Nothing looks like it got hot inside, and there was oil on all the lubed surfaces I have found so far.

Looks like it's time for an oil pump gear transplant from the KT-17 II. Will measure bores and diameters while I have it apart, but things don't look too bad at all compared to the KT-17.

In other news, found the oil drain on the bottom of the crankcase.
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How bad are the rod journals and main journals?
next in line is the cylinder bores?
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