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There is no aftermarket "IH style" hitch. Only OEM. If you want an "aftermarket" one, you have to built it yourself. An IH hitch attaches right to the frame, and will attach without any modification to anything. On the lower bracket, you can modify the original to fit by drilling holes, (in the lower bracket) and adding ears, or drill holes and take your chance on the bolts. Seen guys pull from the aluminum housing with just the bolts and are fine. Keep in mind, on the cast rears, there are only 3 bolts holding the lower bracket on, but on the aluminum rear there are 5. But the addition of "ears" really help take the stress off the rear bolts that can pull the threads out of the case if one is too "rough". Quote:
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It's really no different that putting a larger engine into a machine to replace a smaller one. It fits, it bolts up and works. Or like putting a high back seat on a 125. It isn't what it came from the factory with, but a high back will bolt on. Only incorrect to a guy who want to "keep it original". Lol.... ok, if you say so. |
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Dude. It's black and white in CCC's documentation. The cat 0 is for s/n 720000 and up. That's aluminum rear ends. It's not for 719999 and below. That's cast iron. I literally just spent an hour scanning it all in. Go look. I'll even attach the relevant page. Will it fit? Maybe. Is it correct for the tractor? No. It's not engineered for the cast aluminum rear end. Extreme makes aftermarket bottom brackets, which is what you need to safely run an IH style 3 point on an aluminum rear end. The same people who make the aftermarket 3 point hitch. Extreme and others also make the rest of the hitch parts aftermarket as well. Lift rods, rocker shaft things, pins, frankenstein bolts. It's all available.
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The exact same 3pt hitch on a 982 came on an 1872. IH never offered the cat 0 on a GT, that's all. MTD did. ONLY reason for the difference. Not really anything to debate.... |
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It's "moot" not "mute". And the point isn't "mute". A 451 blower will fit on a 782 but it won't work the way it was designed. The point is that if MTD wanted to offer the IH style hitch on aluminum rear ends, it would have been trivial to reengineer it like they should have. If you run the stock IH 3 point on a stock MTD aluminum rear, you risk yanking the bolts out of your housing. You might get away with it, but you also might not. That's why you should reinforce the rear end or use a modified bracket with ears that wrap around to the sides of the transaxle if you decide to do it. IH did offer the Cat 0 on their MTD manufactured GTs, if we are being pedantic.
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And while losing the argument, we resort to spelling errors. Typical. Quote:
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I think you better study the history of the IH sale of Cub Cadet to MTD some more. You seem confused. One of us is being pedantic, the other is being empirical. |
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Jon, is that you? We missed you buddy!
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My point was just because you can bolt something on doesn't mean you can safely or effectively use it. IH resold CCC built machines from 1981-1985. During that time they offered a Cat 0 on those machines. They offered a Cat 0 on the 482, 582, 682, 782 and 982s over serial number 720000, and they offered the cat 0 from day 1 on IH built 982s.
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1981 to 1985 CCC built and sold all the tractors. IH sold to the line to MTD in 1981. (If you study it, it actually was before 81, just not announced.) The Cat 0 was NEVER offered on a CI rear end machine. Serial number 720,000 and above was an ALUMINUM rear!!! Wow. Just wow. Nobody is going to think any less of you if you just let this go. You don't know enough to debate this, and your just digging your hole deeper buddy. |
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MTD never sold IH built machines at any point. CCC was a fully owned subsidary of MTD that was formed with the closure of a deal in February of 1981. In April of 1981, the last machines rolled off the Louisvile IH assembly line and residual parts and tooling were moved to the CCC factory in Brownsville, TN where the first MTD built cub cadet (a 482) rolled of the assembly line in November of 1981. From that point until 1985, IH bought CCC (MTD) built cub cadets and then resold them to their dealer network. The castings for the first 20,000 of those were cast iron and came from existing stock or the Louisville plant. MTD designed their own rear end and cast it from aluminum to mitigate potential environmental issues and also to end their reliance on IH for the parts. When they put that into production, they only offered a cat 0 3 point hitch because that was the only rear lift they designed to work with their new rear end. IH sold a cat 0 3 point on the 982 which had a cast iron rear end starting in 1979, before they sold to MTD. Please go back to ECC, Jon. There are forum rules against having more than one account.
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But I've read a lot of your posts since joining up here..... and I'm not all that impressed. That's why I decided to post in this thread. Couldn't take the misinformation. Seen a lot of guys like you on other forums. Loud, but not very knowledgeable. It's not fair to those you are "helping". I'm tired. Done my due diligence here. |
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