105 starter solonoid removal ?

[charlie105]

Any suggestions on how to remove the lower solonoid nut on a 105 ? It holds the solonoid to the bulkhead under the control panel. Miserable place to reach when it’s 5deg. F and wind @ 20mph. Thanks for any ideas. Steve

[R Bedell]

Are you replacing the Starter Solenoid or removing the solenoid for other reasons ??

[darkminion_17]

Originally Posted by charlie105

Any suggestions on how to remove the lower solonoid nut on a 105 ? It holds the solonoid to the bulkhead under the control panel. Miserable place to reach when it’s 5deg. F and wind @ 20mph. Thanks for any ideas. Steve

A little 1/4 drive socket wrench and some patience. If it is bad, just bend it back and forth unit the other mount snaps off.

[charlie105]

OK. Wil ltry some more patience with the socket before I bend it off. A question just occured to me, how to test the solonoid’s condition. Are they go/no go, or do they conduct less primary current with age, and use ? Thanks, Steve

[Billy-O]

WHY are you trying to remove the starter solenoid? Solenoid can " not work" or you can have poor starting issues such as slow to turn over. Whatever you problem may be, use a multimeter to diagnose. You can test without removing the solenoid before you remove it all for nothing.

[R Bedell]

A Solenoid is a Magnetic Switch. With no voltage to the small terminals (coil), the switch is open. With 12VDC to the small terminals, the coil is energized pulling up the contacts, allowing Starter Voltage to pass through contacts being closed.

[charlie105]

Full disclosure: 105 has been increasingly difficult to start in below 20deg temps. Yesterday( 6 degrees) it turned over slowly and would not start. Drained the battery twice while the motor seduced me with a series of “almost” starts. Gone through the ignition system cleaning wiring connections. The solonoid connections are too difficult to clean in place, so I thought i’d take it out to clean them. I have a new replacement on hand, and if the old one doesn’t check out I can replace it. The old solenoid is the 105’s original. Thanks, Steve

[crazycubtrio]

You could do a voltage test on the big terminal going to the S/G during cranking to verify the full battery voltage is going through the solenoid. I have doubts the solenoid is to blame though, never had one cause what is happening.

[Kris Brown]

What size is your battery? I have a 400 ca battery in my 680 and once it’s gets below 25 degrees; it’s still not enough. My 104 was hard to start today and that was with its battery, a car battery and 50 amps from the battery charger. Also, what weight oil are you running?

[athomas]

I generally have a 270/300 CCA battery in my tractors and they start in cold weather without any assist, sometimes sitting a month or more. If your starter/gen is in good working order, ignition system, plug, wire & connections, timing set properly, carb & fuel system free of any demons, it should fire and run pretty quickly. Usually the solenoid is not the issue with slow cranking. just my opinion ! good luck

PS if any of those systems are in marginal condition, they will rear their ugly head when the weather is the worst !