Only Cub Cadets

PLEASE PATRONIZE OUR SPONSORS!

CC Speciaalties R. F. Houtz and Sons

Patton Acres IH Cub Cadet Parts

Cub Cadet Parts & Service


If you would like to help maintain this site & enhance it, feel free to donate whatever amount you would like to!




Attention Folks we have a new owner!
Greg Rozar AKA- CubDieselFan


Go Back   Only Cub Cadets > Cub Cadets > Cub Cadet Engines

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #101  
Old 03-11-2019, 08:20 AM
garnold's Avatar
garnold garnold is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: NJ
Posts: 816
Default

That's pretty cool 😎👍
__________________
108 upgraded to 12hp
127 with all the trimmings
73 WIP
75 WIP
Blade, blower, decks
Tons of left over parts
Reply With Quote
  #102  
Old 06-10-2019, 11:37 AM
Roy Najecki's Avatar
Roy Najecki Roy Najecki is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 158
Default

As I wrote in April 2015 I was tempted to repower my 782 with the HF V-Twin but after reading about all the modifications needed, and that the electrical output wouldn't be enough for the electric PTO I decided to go with the SEW Vanguard. Yes, it cost $1400 vs $600 but installation was easy, didn't require modifications or any fabrication.

This was the first time I've pulled an engine on a Cub Cadet. When I pulled the Magnum M-18 I couldn't get the front engine mounting bolts out of the CC frame as the front axle was in the way, and I didn't want to take that apart. In hindsight I should have used an angle grinder and cut them away. The SEW conversion kit , which is no longer sold separately, has a U-shaped engine mounting plate which raises the Vanguard engine about 1 inch to match the height of the Magnum crankshaft. Fortunately the mounting plate elevation also cleared the old front engine mounting bolts. I wish the mounting plate was an inch longer because the front mounting slots barely reached to the mounting bolts.

The bronze PTO crankshaft bushing and spacer/washers were fine, and they sent more washers than I think anyone would need. I used my old PTO clutch, which I had replaced in June 2007. In the process of removing the old clutch I may have bent some sheet metal on the armature/pulley which is causing an intermittent rubbing sound. Perhaps someday I'll have to replace it with a $230 Xtreme clutch.

Though I wired it correctly the engine wouldn't start - no spark. It took me awhile to figure out that when I replaced the ignition switch in 2007 I also had to install an ignition relay. That relay was keeping the new engine from starting. Once I bypassed the old relay the Vanguard fired right up.

I've put about ten hours on the Vanguard and I've noticed that it's quieter and more fuel efficient than the Magnum. The Vanguard top RPM is about 3000 under load and no load vs the Magnum 3350/3600 RPM. The Vanguard at idle is 1700 RPM vs Magnum at 1200 RPM.

The same weekend I installed the Vanguard my neighbors 682 KT-17S engine blew up. He found a guy an hour away near Hartford CT who had used but running Magnum engines for a few hundred dollars. Well before I got my CC running he had a Magnum installed and was out mowing the field. My 682's engine is acting up and I just may do like my neighbor and pick up a used Magnum.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSC02825.jpg (25.8 KB, 161 views)
File Type: jpg DSC02824.jpg (24.9 KB, 160 views)
Reply With Quote
  #103  
Old 06-10-2019, 11:47 AM
Sam Mac's Avatar
Sam Mac Sam Mac is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Galax VA
Posts: 18,745
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy Najecki View Post
As I wrote in April 2015 I was tempted to repower my 782 with the HF V-Twin but after reading about all the modifications needed, and that the electrical output wouldn't be enough for the electric PTO I decided to go with the SEW Vanguard. Yes, it cost $1400 vs $600 but installation was easy, didn't require modifications or any fabrication.

This was the first time I've pulled an engine on a Cub Cadet. When I pulled the Magnum M-18 I couldn't get the front engine mounting bolts out of the CC frame as the front axle was in the way, and I didn't want to take that apart. In hindsight I should have used an angle grinder and cut them away. The SEW conversion kit , which is no longer sold separately, has a U-shaped engine mounting plate which raises the Vanguard engine about 1 inch to match the height of the Magnum crankshaft. Fortunately the mounting plate elevation also cleared the old front engine mounting bolts. I wish the mounting plate was an inch longer because the front mounting slots barely reached to the mounting bolts.

The bronze PTO crankshaft bushing and spacer/washers were fine, and they sent more washers than I think anyone would need. I used my old PTO clutch, which I had replaced in June 2007. In the process of removing the old clutch I may have bent some sheet metal on the armature/pulley which is causing an intermittent rubbing sound. Perhaps someday I'll have to replace it with a $230 Xtreme clutch.

Though I wired it correctly the engine wouldn't start - no spark. It took me awhile to figure out that when I replaced the ignition switch in 2007 I also had to install an ignition relay. That relay was keeping the new engine from starting. Once I bypassed the old relay the Vanguard fired right up.

I've put about ten hours on the Vanguard and I've noticed that it's quieter and more fuel efficient than the Magnum. The Vanguard top RPM is about 3000 under load and no load vs the Magnum 3350/3600 RPM. The Vanguard at idle is 1700 RPM vs Magnum at 1200 RPM.

The same weekend I installed the Vanguard my neighbors 682 KT-17S engine blew up. He found a guy an hour away near Hartford CT who had used but running Magnum engines for a few hundred dollars. Well before I got my CC running he had a Magnum installed and was out mowing the field. My 682's engine is acting up and I just may do like my neighbor and pick up a used Magnum.
3/4" gear ratchet wrench fits up over the axle. Easy as can be to get them out.
__________________
2264 with 54 GT deck
1641 AKA Black Jack with a 402-E Haban Sickle bar mower
JD317 dump truck
BX2670 with FEL
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:26 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

Cub Cadet is a premium line of outdoor power equipment, established in 1961 as part of International Harvester. During the 1960s, IH initiated an entirely new line of lawn and garden equipment aimed at the owners rural homes with large yards and private gardens. There were a wide variety of Cub Cadet branded and after-market attachments available; including mowers, blades, snow blowers, front loaders, plows, carts, etc. Cub Cadet advertising at that time harped on their thorough testing by "boys - acknowledged by many as the world's worst destructive force!". Cub Cadets became known for their dependability and rugged construction.

MTD Products, Inc. of Cleveland, Ohio purchased the Cub Cadet brand from International Harvester in 1981. Cub Cadet was held as a wholly owned subsidiary for many years following this acquisition, which allowed them to operate independently. Recently, MTD has taken a more aggressive role and integrated Cub Cadet into its other lines of power equipment.

This website and forum are not affiliated with or sponsored by MTD Products Inc, which owns the CUB CADET trademarks. It is not an official MTD Products Inc, website, and MTD Products Inc, is not responsible for any of its content. The official MTD Products Inc, website can be found at: http://www.mtdproducts.com. The information and opinions expressed on this website are the responsibility of the website's owner and/or it's members, and do not represent the opinions of MTD Products Inc. IH, INTERNATIONAL HARVESTER are registered trademark of CNH America LLC

All material, images, and graphics from this site are the property of www.onlycubcadets.net. Any unauthorized use, reproductions, or duplications are prohibited unless solely expressed in writing.

Cub Cadet, Cub, Cadet, IH, MTD, Parts, Tractors, Tractor, International Harvester, Lawn, Garden, Lawn Mower, Kohler, garden tractor equipment, lawn garden tractors, antique garden tractors, garden tractor, PTO, parts, online, Original, 70, 71, 72, 73, 76, SO76, 80, 81, 86, 100, 102, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108,109, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 147, 149, 169, 182, 282, 382, 482, 580, 582, 582 Special, 680, 682, 782, 782D, 784, 800, 805, 882, 982, 984, 986, 1000, 1015, 1100, 1105, 1110, 1200, 1250, 1282, 1450, 1512, 1604, 1605, 1606, 1610, 1615, 1620, 1650, 1710, 1711, 1712, 1806, 1810, 1811, 1812, 1912, 1914.