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Old 07-16-2014, 08:12 AM
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Keep it inside and don't let it get wet!
LOL this is true it actually gets better treatment than my jeep hahaha!
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The last two I did I used Martin Senour Urethane with hardener. It seems 'decent' (most of the complaints I might come up with are application issues (ie me) more than the product).

But the thing is, I have no side by side durability/aging comparison against another brand. Very difficult to do unless you paint equipment for a living and can collect complaint data over a long period of time.

I might also suggest that the primer is more important than the paint (as long as a decent paint is used). 'Epoxy' based primers are recommended, with high zinc content (a cathodic process preserves the metal). This gets good reviews from the car resto groups: http://www.bilthamber.com/which-paint-or-coating

And perhaps most important of all, is surface prep, in particular any bare metal (or if you are wanting to paint over rust, that is a different approach entirely...)
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Old 07-16-2014, 09:03 AM
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The last two I did I used Martin Senour Urethane with hardener. It seems 'decent' (most of the complaints I might come up with are application issues (ie me) more than the product).

But the thing is, I have no side by side durability/aging comparison against another brand. Very difficult to do unless you paint equipment for a living and can collect complaint data over a long period of time.

I might also suggest that the primer is more important than the paint (as long as a decent paint is used). 'Epoxy' based primers are recommended, with high zinc content (a cathodic process preserves the metal). This gets good reviews from the car resto groups: http://www.bilthamber.com/which-paint-or-coating

And perhaps most important of all, is surface prep, in particular any bare metal (or if you are wanting to paint over rust, that is a different approach entirely...)
As I said I hate rust and I want the old girl to look as good as the day she was built. I am hopin the other half would let me snag up another Cub so I can moth ball this one and get busy on the tear down. I have seen a lot of good looking restores on here and was wondering as well what is the best way to clean up and paint the rear end including the hydro??? There is no rust on it to speak of but that is something that I wouldn't blast to refinish...ideas on this?
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I might also suggest that the primer is more important than the paint (as long as a decent paint is used). 'Epoxy' based primers are recommended, with high zinc content (a cathodic process preserves the metal). This gets good reviews from the car resto groups: http://www.bilthamber.com/which-paint-or-coating

And perhaps most important of all, is surface prep, in particular any bare metal (or if you are wanting to paint over rust, that is a different approach entirely...)
+1 on this. Prep work is key to a good finish. Clean well before you start, then wipe with a wax/grease remover, and then start your rust removal/grinding/sanding etc. Once your done with that, wipe again with wax/grease remover and do any filler work or rust conversion. Once that is done, guess what??????? yep, wipe it again, shoot your primer and then color. Epoxy primer is the way to go. From what I recall, it bonds chemically, not mechanically and is extremely durable, although not UV stable (ie: needs topcoated) The other nice thing about epoxy is that you can shoot it, wait the proper flash time (30 minutes for PPG Omni) and then you can shoot color without any sanding, so it would be your final coat. This will give you a very durable finish. Keep in mind that the lower end products from the big names (PPG/Dupont/MS) have lower solids so they take a little more material to cover properly. Add that to yellow, in general, covering poorly, and you will go thru a bit of paint for these small tractors. It's still more reasonable to buy the "shop" line paints, just an FYI.

Oh, and I've been using PPG Omni Acrylic Urethane and Epoxy Primer on my projects and they've been holding up well over the years. Just make sure you have good respiratory protection and ventilation using these products.
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+1 on this. Prep work is key to a good finish. Clean well before you start, then wipe with a wax/grease remover, and then start your rust removal/grinding/sanding etc. Once your done with that, wipe again with wax/grease remover and do any filler work or rust conversion. Once that is done, guess what??????? yep, wipe it again, shoot your primer and then color. Epoxy primer is the way to go. From what I recall, it bonds chemically, not mechanically and is extremely durable, although not UV stable (ie: needs topcoated) The other nice thing about epoxy is that you can shoot it, wait the proper flash time (30 minutes for PPG Omni) and then you can shoot color without any sanding, so it would be your final coat. This will give you a very durable finish. Keep in mind that the lower end products from the big names (PPG/Dupont/MS) have lower solids so they take a little more material to cover properly. Add that to yellow, in general, covering poorly, and you will go thru a bit of paint for these small tractors. It's still more reasonable to buy the "shop" line paints, just an FYI.

Oh, and I've been using PPG Omni Acrylic Urethane and Epoxy Primer on my projects and they've been holding up well over the years. Just make sure you have good respiratory protection and ventilation using these products.
I am from the Dupont Centari days, got away from the painting aspect some time ago, but always liked doing it. So this should be an adventure
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Oh, and I've been using PPG Omni Acrylic Urethane and Epoxy Primer on my projects and they've been holding up well over the years. Just make sure you have good respiratory protection and ventilation using these products.
Can you share the specific part number on this PPG epoxy primer?
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