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Old 12-11-2018, 12:19 AM
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So why does the shute adjuster linkage hit my 1811 grill? The thrower is barely off the ground in this pic. I'll have to leave the adjuster off unless I can add an offset bracket to it.
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Old 12-11-2018, 07:55 AM
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I made an extension for mine to keep it away from the grill shell on my 782.
Basically just took a piece or round stock and drilled it to fit the gear shaft
on one end, and turned it down to fit the cheap universal joint on the other end.
Seems like it was about a 4" extension or so, of course I drilled the appropriate
2 holes for the drive hair pins.
I can take a pix it you need.
Was always gonna drive the gear with a small hydro motor I have, but have not got to it yet, old and lazy I guess.
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Old 12-24-2018, 12:28 AM
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QA42A on 1811

I figured some things out (I think). I replaced the straight links with angled links I bought off ebay. I assumed they should be the same length but the bent ones are about 2" longer than the straight. Not sure if that's correct but it does kick the top of the thrower out enough that the shute adjuster misses the grill even when the thrower is at max height. The pic shows the straight link resting below the bent one for comparison and the thrower now tilts forward.

I also welded up a new lift rod. I don't know how my mig welds will hold up but I needed the practice and I don't have the torch I would need to bend the rod ends. My first attempt was 28" long since I thought I needed the standard length but I didn't get enough lift height. Proper length turned out to be 26 7/8" on center to get max lift without binding.

Now, this thing is loud! Sounds like it's out of balance and it's beating itself to death. I have to check some things before I wind up in the hospital.
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Old 12-24-2018, 09:57 AM
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They normally are not loud, check the auger drive chain, auger bearings, and bearings in the jack shaft.
Also make sure the universal joints are clocked correctly as they can be off causing noise/vibration.
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Old 12-24-2018, 01:14 PM
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Thanks George. Not being a mechanic I didn't know about the orientation of the u-joints. I had taken the splined sections apart to grease them since the grease fitting was broken off and I assembled it "out of phase". I took it apart again and this time I drilled out the broken grease fitting. Note, I had to start the drilling with a carbide bit since it was hardened steel. Then I was able to open the hole up with a standard bit to size it for tapping. Maybe I could have driven the broken fitting out with a punch.

Anyway, I put the shaft back together, greased the new fitting and now it doesn't go BANG, BANG , BANG. It does still shake a bit and I notice the chain gets loose and tight as it spins. TIme for a new chain?

Can anyone confirm the longer upper links? The straight upper and lower arms are 11" on center but the angled upper links are 13". Is that correct and does it matter to have the thrower tilted forward a bit?

The pic shows the shute adjuster at max thrower height after I installed the angled links. As you can see it clears the grill but I will need to remove the u-joint and extend the shaft as was suggested.
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Old 12-24-2018, 02:07 PM
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IIRR the upper curved links are only about 3/4" longer center to center.
I curved the straight links and had to add a bit of metal to them, to re drill the holes.
Somewhere on this forum, a while ago I posted a pix of them.
The thrower sides front edge should be somewhat *90 to the ground,
give/take a little.
If you can't search it, I can look to see if I can find the pix and repost it.
When you set the chain tightness as in any chain, turn it to the tightest position, then give it a wee little slack.
You don't want it slapping the auger hole, but you don't want it being so tight
that it tries to bind.
Those #40 chains are inexpensive in a 10" box at tractor supply.
or a farm & fleet.
Remember to position the master link clip with the open end trailing the direction of travel just like a mo'sikkil or bicycle.
iffin yall don't, it will catch on chit and peel it off sooner than later.
Also adjust both bolts that hold the aluminum jackshaft housing in position
(chain adjusters) equally so both support it, and FWIW, they are no longer avail as is most of that stuff.
Those needle bearings in there need grease also, to live.
Also if the shafts are worn, Jeff in pa. makes shafts.
Ya the drive shaft "U" joints need to be like two letter "C's back to back, just like a drive shaft on a pee cup truck.
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Old 12-24-2018, 05:18 PM
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Yes you need to use the longer, curved upper links. I run one on a 782. I never had clearance issues with the adjuster with them.

Agreed these throwers aren't very loud. I have two of them, an older, well used unit, and a newer, 4 paddle unit. I used the older one for a couple years, it was smooth and quiet, and last year got the 4 paddle. It's gonna need some help. It's a little loud.
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While the weather is so warm I thought I would do a little work on the blower. I'll replace the "droopy" chain. It looks like 26 links and 26" of #40 chain. The 14 tooth sprocket looks worn. Is there an easy replacement with a roll pin hole? I was thinking I could buy a standard sprocket with key and set screw and drill out the set screw for a roll pin. While it's apart I'll add a washer so the sprocket doesn't eat away at the needle bearing housing. There was a washer on only one side of the sprocket.

One of the auger bearings is noisy so I will replace it. The PO tightened the collar in the wrong direction so it was fun trying to remove it. My air hammer came to the rescue.

I found the auger is out of balance because it rotates on its own to the same side from any stopped position. I will add a bolt and washers to the light side until it is balanced.
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That sprocket is worn but not that bad. if you go to a new one from aftermarket
suppliers like tractor supply or fleet store, mcmaster-carr etc. you might want to try 1 tooth larger as you have the motor to pull it.
You might like the results.
Yes, washer both sides, and you can use one with a keyway, just drill the roll pin hole straight and through both sides as the roll pin will shear when you swaller sumptin' ewe otta not have.
Best to drill a new hole as it allows full pin support, unlike through the keyway set screw hole.
Centering the hole is difficult to do unless you have a mill or other device to locate it dead center.
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Just before the snow storm I replaced the chain, one auger bearing and the small sprocket that Jeff made for me. His prices are great, cost about half of the NOS part. He machined a 12 dollar keyed sprocket to match the stock part with a roll pin.

The bad..... the blower shakes rattles and rolls because the PO must have run into to something and bent the auger bearing rod on the chain side. I can see the bearing and sprocket wobble about 50 thou. I may have to beat on it with a mini sledge.

Any ideas?
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