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Old 07-18-2018, 04:49 PM
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Just wondering if there is a common practice in the IH Cub restoration business of mixing frames, engines, tranny's etc from various tractors and making a "new" cub and removing the serial number tags on the side of the frame and tranny? It appears that several photos I've seen of restored cubs over the last several months that many of them don't have the serial number tags on them. I'm looking to buy an older one, and I want an authentic model and not a made up one. Any comments are appreciated.
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The serial tag is only located in one place given any particular series. They are not all in the same location, and the moved tag locations during production runs on a couple series. They are not cars. The engines, frames, transmissions are not all "tagged". So, no way to really know if a part has been swapped. Even if it has, no, it's not all that uncommon. Most tractors are original, but some have had repairs made with used parts.

Removing tags is not common. It's more likely, you just don't know where the tag is, and it isn't in the same place on say a 1X8/9 series as it is on a 1X4/5.
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Also, some of the oldest models like the cub Original did not have a tag, only a number stamped into the differential housing. I would suggest reading the book "50 years of cub cadet" it's a great resource.
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If you get an old "real" Cub, you'll sell that XT3 once you figure out it doesn't compare.
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If you get an old "real" Cub, you'll sell that XT3 once you figure out it doesn't compare.
Thank all for the comments. As for the old vs new and selling the XT3...I grew up with a Cub 72 and spent many hrs mowing, pushing snow, picking up corn etc. My dad purchased it new around 1970 for about $795. My grandpa purchased a new 125 roughly a year earlier if my facts are accurate. My uncle was the local Case IH/Cub dealer, so Cubs are in my blood. They both were phenomenal tractors and without a doubt tough and durable. I wish I had them both now. I ended up trading the 72 in for a 2130 in 1994-95. Kinda wish I didn't do that now, but my mom and dad gave it to me to help me out. The deck, and a few other parts on the 72 were shot and I had just bought a new house and I needed to a running tractor asap.

I nearly bought an older Cub this year, but after testing the new XT3, it was so much nicer to drive and the build quality and price point in my opinion was very good with features that appeal to me for my current needs. I recognized that I don't have the space at this time to tinker with a 50 year old machine. However, when I get settled into my new place, I'll likely get an older one for the fun of restoring it and [likely] compare it to my new XT3... Tug of war comes mind!

By the way, I just asked my Aunt if she still has the service manuals from the business. She told me once before, they kept all that stuff. So she is going to look around. Maybe I get them.
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Also, some of the oldest models like the cub Original did not have a tag, only a number stamped into the differential housing. I would suggest reading the book "50 years of cub cadet" it's a great resource.
Thanks for the book tip. I'll see if I can find it.
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