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Old 10-19-2017, 08:14 AM
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I think we have a weener. The right sized one would probably work perfect. Good suggestion LP

I used a big one of those to cut the 6 inch diameter pipes filled with concrete to put in the basement between the halves of modular homes to support them. Worked great but “Low man on the totem pole” literally.
Not knowing what a "weener" is, I googled it. Bad idea....
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Not knowing what a "weener" is, I googled it. Bad idea....
Why it’s me Mr. Sorner. My name is Frank.

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Old 10-19-2017, 08:43 AM
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I found everything from dogs, to Lady Gaga. But nothing about cutting pipes.
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I took the plunge and did it by hand. I knew I could do it. I cut it with a hacksaw right along the weld very carefully to not go too deep and it came right apart. Preserved the lip and everything so it can slide back in and get welded back up. The o-rings are different from what I have here in my 30 most common sizes kit of orings so I will have to go shopping. But here are some photos.

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Is this a problem? Can that plastic piece be replaced? I assume it is supposed to keep dirt out of the oring. It has a crack in it. I don’t see how to get it out.
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That’s a wiper. Theres an internal groove it sits in and should just pop out. They’re normally one piece and poly.
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That’s a wiper. Theres an internal groove it sits in and should just pop out. They’re normally one piece and poly.

Oh ok, so just grab it and pop it out? The cylinder for my Jacobsen that I worked on before once I took the fittings out the top part of the cylinder popped out from the inside and it had a wiper seal up in there that was cone shaped. This one appears to be different and part of the unit. I'll have to figure out where to get that wiper.

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Oh ok, so just grab it and pop it out? The cylinder for my Jacobsen that I worked on before once I took the fittings out the top part of the cylinder popped out from the inside and it had a wiper seal up in there that was cone shaped. This one appears to be different and part of the unit. I'll have to figure out where to get that wiper.

I wouldn't pull the old one out until you have a new one in your hand. One that's cracked would be better than none at all.
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Is the nylon part a back up washer?
Is it cracked or slit for removal? ( cannot make head or tail of the pix)
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Is the nylon part a back up washer?
Is it cracked or slit for removal? ( cannot make head or tail of the pix)
Good question George. I took the o-ring out to match it up with a new one so it's not pictured in there but the whole thing appears to be one piece and then there's a groove in the metal behind it where the o-ring goes. I'm inclined to just leave it be because there is a hard plastic (grayish) ring behind the cracked part and in front of the o-ring that seems intact and may be the actual wiper if the slit part is not a crack and is there for removal. I haven't found a good picture of any newer ones to compare it to. I have two of these cylinders and the other one on my 1864 looks like it has a crack/slit as well. It also has a bit of a leak and will be next up to rebuild if I can get this one working, but it's not nearly as bad of a leaker as this one. It just weeps a little at the shaft. This one dripped and left a puddle around the shaft even while sitting.

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I added a zoomed and cropped picture of the one I already posted. It doesn't look like a split for removal, it looks like it has cracked.
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I am curious Steve, how's the bore of the cylinder look? Any scoring? When the cylinder went on my 1572, steering was non-responsive ONLY when the cylinder was in the center of the range while going straight ahead. When trying to navigate from straight-ahead to a corner, turning the steering wheel did not make the direction change for the wheels to where I wanted to go UNLESS I moved the steering wheel very rapidly with a quick snap which, I think, momentarily caused more fluid to go into the cylinder than could leak past the seal and made it turn/move. Response on the ends of travel while travelling around a corner was normal.
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