108 final statement

[Mudrig150]

It's official. Screw the 108. It's junk. Clutch don't work no more, fuel leaks from everywhere, brakes still don't work, it smokes horribly. I've decided it's a total loss.

[J-Mech]

Spoken like a kid. Can't fix it, must be junk.

[olds45512]

Sounds like it is in need of repair which is usually the case with any piece of equipment that's 40+ years old. I was gonna say more but Jon pretty much summed it up.

[cooperino]

Originally Posted by Mudrig150

It's official. Screw the 108. It's junk. Clutch don't work no more, fuel leaks from everywhere, brakes still don't work, it smokes horribly. I've decided it's a total loss.

Your right.. You should probably pay one of the PA members here to come and pick it up from you
I'm not far from PA and my sister lives there also.. Just sayin

[john hall]

Spoken like a SPOILED BRAT (be you 12 or 62) that has NEVER ran ANY machinery. Look, its old with a lot of EXPECTED wear. This machine was built to be supported by a dealer network and a parts dept. It was not designed to run till it broke and then discard, that is a relatively new concept in manufacturing based on newer manufacturing methods and also an evolving thirst for "newness" around the planet.

Do us all a favor, put that thing on CL as a running parts machine priced at $100.

[cooperino]

Originally Posted by john hall

Spoken like a SPOILED BRAT (be you 12 or 62) that has NEVER ran ANY machinery. Look, its old with a lot of EXPECTED wear. This machine was built to be supported by a dealer network and a parts dept. It was not designed to run till it broke and then discard, that is a relatively new concept in manufacturing based on newer manufacturing methods and also an evolving thirst for "newness" around the planet.

Do us all a favor, put that thing on CL as a running parts machine priced at $100.

Sum this up in one word "millenials" lol

[Mudrig150]

Originally Posted by john hall

Spoken like a SPOILED BRAT (be you 12 or 62) that has NEVER ran ANY machinery. Look, its old with a lot of EXPECTED wear. This machine was built to be supported by a dealer network and a parts dept. It was not designed to run till it broke and then discard, that is a relatively new concept in manufacturing based on newer manufacturing methods and also an evolving thirst for "newness" around the planet.

Do us all a favor, put that thing on CL as a running parts machine priced at $100.

Already did, but the problem, everything needs replaced, PO cobbled everything together: clutch plate, clutch arm, clutch arm bracket, all of them are worn way past the point of requiring repair. Seems like someone didn't take care of their tractor.
Basically, what I'm getting at is that it would cost more than I bought the tractor for to undo the damage the previous owner caused.

And all of the crap I said in the intial post just suddenly popped up after not running it for like 2 and a half weeks!

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by Mudrig150

Already did, but the problem, everything needs replaced, PO cobbled everything together: clutch plate, clutch arm, clutch arm bracket, all of them are worn way past the point of requiring repair. Seems like someone didn't take care of their tractor.
Basically, what I'm getting at is that it would cost more than I bought the tractor for to undo the damage the previous owner caused.

And all of the crap I said in the intial post just suddenly popped up after not running it for like 2 and a half weeks!

I bet you have far less idea what your talking about than you think you do.

Guess what, they most always cost more to fix than we pay for them. You only paid like $150 bucks (or something like that) for the tractor. I mean, damn.... a good battery is $45. What the heck did you think you would have to spend on it? $20? If that's what you think, you better get out of Cubs altogether. If you want a cheap to fix, throw away mower there are plenty out there.

[john hall]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

Guess what, they most always cost more to fix than we pay for them. You only paid like $150 bucks (or something like that) for the tractor. I mean, damn.... a good battery is $45. What the heck did you think you would have to spend on it? $20? If that's what you think, you better get out of Cubs altogether.

To expand on J-Mech's statement. fixing up anything old is a gamble. Sometimes time and money are rarely an issue. Sometimes it takes tons of both. When you have done a few projects you can better understand that sometimes, some machines shouldn't be restored/refurbished. Believe me, I know as restoring antique farm equipment has been a hobby of mine for 35 years. I've pulled a couple old farm tractors in the shop only to pull them back out a couple weeks later. One was an IH ID9, the other an Oliver 70. Too much time and money for either one. I had an early 50's Ford F5 truck. I could crank it up and drive it around the farm. I was all ready to go restoring it. When I added up the cost of materials, I could buy a restored truck. I found another collector and sold it to him, just like those 2 tractors that were not worth restoring. If you are intent of fixing something up, get something that is in reasonably good shape and running. After you work on it you will better understand how to grade a project in the amount of work, money and timeframe required.

So you don't think I back away from a challenge, I'll leave you with these photos. I bought this tractor after it sat for 30 years under a tree. The only thing that would move was the front wheels, even the steering and gearshift were frozen. Dad and I finished it in about 10 months. I used my money only. I was the ripe old age of 18.

[Chad126]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

Guess what, they most always cost more to fix than we pay for them.

Yep. Here is the parts list I kept for my 126, and I didn't even capture everything I bought.

Fuel lines $15
Decals $63
Sediment Bowl Gasket $6
Carb Kit $12
Plug, Filters, Condensor $30
Wiring Harness $87
Oils and Lube $37
Battery $38
Rear Tires $152
Front Tires $69
Rear Trans Gasket $12
Paint $165
Clutch Plate $32
Stainless Hardware $37
Total $754

Your heart has to be in this. Spending money on these should be like spending money on a new toy. I would be like a kid on Christmas morning when I had a package show up at the door.