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Old 03-15-2019, 07:32 AM
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Default Correct 1450 ISO mount orientation

Hey all, I am new to the forum and recently acquired a 1450 with a tiller and absolutely love it thus far.

Already tilled the garden with it here in Western Pennsylvania and may do it again before we plant anything.

As I read some of the posts and learn more about this machine, I believe the ISO motor mounts may be in wrong and wanted to post some pics for experienced opinions. These are the rear mounts and the front appear to be installed the same way and in about the same shape.

I also see a thread for a cross brace between the engine mounting rails, is this something I should implement?

Any other suggestions on what else I should check and or replace when the engine is out assuming my assumption on their orientation is correct and I need to change the mounts.

Thanks
John in Western PA
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Old 03-15-2019, 10:29 AM
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First, welcome to OCC...........

YUP, those are the original OEM rubber mounts. They look typical after 40+ yrs. You can update those to the current kit..

I would highly suggest the Brace Modification also.
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Old 03-15-2019, 10:49 AM
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Default Load carrying mount in wrong place?

Roland
Thanks for the quick reply, but in my pics, it looks like the load carrying mount is on top near the motor. Isn't it supposed to be between the engine cradle and the tractor frame?

Was also wondering if they needed changed right away or can I do more tilling and/or mowing with it without causing any major damage?

John
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Old 03-15-2019, 11:29 AM
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It IS!! It/they ARE there, between the mount and the frame, at least what is left of Them!!
Half of the mount is between the frame and the top half is, well...on top of the cradle.
They need replaces ASAP in my estimation, why wait?
They will only get worse, throwing off the engine to driveline and transmission alignment and causing more issues if they have not already.

Also the engine will drop down and the bolt ends/nuts will waller holes in the fan shroud.
If this were my machine, I'd go through the complete driveline checking for loose and/or worn parts and rag joints, couplers etc, & replace as necessary.

By all means, do the cradle mod also, you will already be 1/2 way there when the unit is disassembled for mount replacement.
And if you have an aluminum pan, (likely) there is a chance some of the bolt holes are wallerd out and bolts may be loose and/or missing altogether. Check the mount pads on an aluminum pan for uneven wear and stripped or damaged threads. (common on these Cubs w/aluminum pans) suggest you replace with a cast iron piece if possible.

You will then have a very trouble free and reliable machine for years to come.
Pull the tunnel cover off and have a look see. Likely you will find issues there as well.

The 1450 is an awesome tiller rig, I have one as well an it will get a fresh engine this summer.

Good Luck!!
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Old 03-15-2019, 11:38 AM
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I believe twoton did a restoration of a 1450, and even included part numbers of parts he used, etc. If you search, I'm sure you can find it.
You'll want to check for things like steering box and trunnion condition.
Best of luck, and post photos of your project as you go along!
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Old 03-15-2019, 11:45 AM
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Out of the Quietline Service Manual...
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:29 PM
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Roland
Thanks for the quick reply, but in my pics, it looks like the load carrying mount is on top near the motor. Isn't it supposed to be between the engine cradle and the tractor frame?

Was also wondering if they needed changed right away or can I do more tilling and/or mowing with it without causing any major damage?

John
Going by the pink drawing up above I would say you are correct. But regardless, they need replaced. (and do the cradle mod)
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Or install solid mounts by parts by jelly I mean parts by Jeff.

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Old 03-15-2019, 08:18 PM
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The new mounts are MUCH more firm than the originals. Hated them when I put them in my 1650. Ended up taking out the replacement lower mount rubber and replaced with the top uncompressed mount from the original set (which really weren't original, they'd been replaced once before the new style was introduced.)
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Old 03-16-2019, 07:29 PM
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Hey dukejm, welcome to OCC.

When I got my 1450, the iso mounts looked just like yours! And,.. I really didn't want to pull the engine just yet as I really needed to get some work out of it so I installed 4 new ISO mounts with the engine in place. I also replaced both rag joints and I checked to make sure the engine was still firmly bolted to the ISO frame rails. It was a little tricky but that way I was able to get a good summer of mowing out of the machine before I tore it all apart in the late fall.

Definitely check things over closely like finsruskw said to make sure you don't have any other issues.

Good luck and have fun!
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