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Old 12-10-2018, 03:23 PM
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George see my post #3 and his reply #8
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:37 PM
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Would it hurt to see if the engine will hit (don't run it) with the muffler off? Can't say I've ever tried such, but have seen the "spark arrestor" screen in older machines plug up as well as 3-4 times encountered dirt dobbers building a nest in the muffler.
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Old 12-10-2018, 08:44 PM
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Would it hurt to see if the engine will hit (don't run it) with the muffler off? Can't say I've ever tried such, but have seen the "spark arrestor" screen in older machines plug up as well as 3-4 times encountered dirt dobbers building a nest in the muffler.
It’s not a bad idea John but I believe the echo has the spark arrester screen screwed right on to the outlet of the muffler and would be obvious to see if clogged but hey I’ll believe anything as I see weird results and symptoms of no starts every day.
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The drill motor on the flywheel nut with socket is a trick I use.
While it is whirling over stick the lit propane torch in the plug hole to burn any accumulated fuel out of the crankcase/cyl.
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is the exhaust clear?? they will not even put, much less run with it clogged.
Exhaust is wide open like a strippers legs on pay day. Including the arestor.
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It’s not a bad idea John but I believe the echo has the spark arrester screen screwed right on to the outlet of the muffler and would be obvious to see if clogged but hey I’ll believe anything as I see weird results and symptoms of no starts every day.
The arrester is not attached, I took it off, it was a little rusty but open and I cleaned it up with a wire brush.
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I know you said you cleaned the spark arrester but did you take the muffler off and check/clean the exhaust port out as it may be completely clogged with the coke/carbon and not be able to breathe out. Have had this a few times.
Exhaust port is wide open and clean, it is the in the video clip I attached in a previous reply.
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Exhaust port is wide open and clean, it is the in the video clip I attached in a previous reply.
Yes I saw this reply much earlier in the thread? I was responding to John halls idea that it might be a clogged muffler stating that you already answered that as well....
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How are you checking spark, plug removed from the head and laying it on the motor, or is it not.
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Exhaust is wide open like a strippers legs on pay day. Including the arestor.
A big 10-4 on wide open
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So it has spark, fuel, air, and the exhaust is not plugged--correct? I forget, compression test results? This brings timing front and center does it not? Also--here is one that drives folks nut on a 2 cycle---bad crank seals. I had it to happen on an OLD 041AV Stihl chainsaw. Buddy loaned me his "test kit", but still think I had to modify/make a block off plate. Can't remember but I believe I plugged the exhaust and pressurized the intake, then later pulled vacuum on intake? I've got a really old Echo issued vacuum tester that I used in addition to my friends. I wound up tearing that saw all the way down---everybody should do that once. I don't think there was anything left bolted together except the carb (I had already put a kit in that). There is a reason every lawnmower shop has a big pile of 2 cycle products in the scrap heap.
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