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Old 06-03-2019, 09:42 PM
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Default Busted exhaust elbow, now what?

I snapped this off trying to get it out. Any ideas? I tried carefully spot welding a piece of steel in there to get it to turn and no go. It breaks the welds. I try to not weld through to the block. Boat anchor anyone?

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Old 06-04-2019, 06:40 AM
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Use a Sawzall and cut almost through, it in 2 places. Then use a chisel to knock the pieces out . It might need a tap to clean up the threads.
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^^^ X2 on what he said.
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Search here on occ, it has been addressed several times.
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I have pipe extractors that go that big. In other applications I have cut through as suggested. Make sure you get all the metal out if you go that route.
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Old 06-04-2019, 03:48 PM
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I have pipe extractors that go that big. In other applications I have cut through as suggested. Make sure you get all the metal out if you go that route.
Just my opinion, I don't like pipe 'stractors they tend to swell the pipe, making it even tighter and chance breaking the casting.
My preferred method is slitting with saw or slitting with a torch,heating & picking with a punch/chisel. Sometimes one gets lucky as the slitting/heating breaks the rust bond and it turns out, coaxed with punch/chisel. It does take patience and careful work so as not to damage the threads.

Also after it is removed cleaning up with a shortened pipe tap, usually gives good results. Then there is another method best left to a good welder. Welding a bead on the inside of the pipe in @least 3, 4 is better,places and after the pipe cools it shrinks allowing it to be picked/coaxed out with a punch/chisel.
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If it ends up being hopeless I might have a block you can have. I'm not sure just where you're at but I'm about an hour from Chambersburg.
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I got it and didn’t harm the threads too much. I had to make a couple slits and used the torch to get it. One slit got a little deeper than I wanted. I used a jigsaw though with a smaller blade. I thought my saws all would be harder to control with a longer blade.

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I’m about 45 minutes to an hour up 81 from chambersburg.
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Don't look real bad, and there is always the option of a flange mount utilizing
the 2 holes, after surfacing the flange area a bit to accept it.
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There is an option of cutting a pipe thread over size a bit, in the threading machine, like Ridgid Oster etc. to name just 2.
A plumbing shop/old skool hwd can cut a nipple larger by adjusting the dies.
then run a tap in deeper than normal in the part to be saved.
Sure, you wind up with a bastard size thread, but sometimes better than scrapping a piece of machinery or part, especially when dealing with a "one of a kind" or vintage restoration.
Just throwing this out there as it might help someone in the future.
BTDT and it works.
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Glad to see you got it out. A tap followed by a little wire brushing will clean those threads right up.

I like buying the round wire brushes sold in the plumbing dept of big box stores; come in different diameters, plastic handle. I cut the handle off and then can chuck it in my drill. Makes a great rust remover for tight spaces and female threaded areas.

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