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Old 10-12-2022, 12:03 PM
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Lightbulb Reverse/seat relays

While searching for parts for my 1986 1210, I found out that the 5 terminal seat relay and reverse relays were sourced from GM, as it is an A/C blower/wiper/headlight relay depending on year/make/model. While this part 725-0895/925-0895 is still available through MTD Cub Cadet, the price is a staggering $66, and probably sourced from China or Mexico. I have found several NOS USA made relays for a third of that. Here are some of the interchange part numbers:

Standard RY-12, Delco 1115826, Delco 1115858, Delco 15-8169, Delco 19106614, Duralast 19812, 1R1219, Gold Seal 2-DR1009, 2073828, 2226969, 2N2915, Four Seasons 35767, GM 3989214, Wells 56-1684, GM 89057568, Echlin AR109, AR109SB, Kem AR159, Delco D1724C, DR1009, Santech MT0511, BWD R365, RAC1274, JD191K13

Now, the later 4 terminal reverse relay 725-0894/925-0894 are now listed as NLA through MTD Cub Cadet. Again, this was a GM sourced A/C blower relay. Here are some interchange numbers:

Standard RY-11, Echlin AR108, GM 2072624, Delco D1751, Kem AR161, Four Seasons 35765, BWD R367, Wells 56-1683, Duralast 19811, Santech MT0512, JD191K16
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Relays have three specifications. (A) Contact rating [ie: 20A], (B) Coil voltage [ie: 12V], and (C) Switch configuration [ie: SPST].

The 725-0895 is a 12V, 30A, SPDT Relay.

The Bosch #0 332 209 150 (among others) is a 12V, 30A, SPDT Relay for about $10.00.

Not a hard decision for me.
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That's a good alternative. Is this relay plug and play?
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As long as you follow the wiring instructions.
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Relays have three specifications. (A) Contact rating [ie: 20A], (B) Coil voltage [ie: 12V], and (C) Switch configuration [ie: SPST].

The 725-0895 is a 12V, 30A, SPDT Relay.

The Bosch #0 332 209 150 (among others) is a 12V, 30A, SPDT Relay for about $10.00.

Not a hard decision for me.
Good stuff if I cared for a seat or reverse switch
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I get it. The reverse blade shut off is a total PITA, and adds more wear to the PTO clutch.

I do make sure the seat safety safety system works, in the unlikely/unfortunate event I'm thrown or fall off the tractor.

Back to the relays, I have located Standard brand direct fit units for around $10. Packaging did not state country of origin.
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I get it. The reverse blade shut off is a total PITA, and adds more wear to the PTO clutch.

I do make sure the seat safety safety system works, in the unlikely/unfortunate event I'm thrown or fall off the tractor.

Back to the relays, I have located Standard brand direct fit units for around $10. Packaging did not state country of origin.
On the odd chance I tip, I think my leg/foot would hit the ground first and push back upright. I agree if you're going sideways on steep hills (e.g. mowing - which I only occasionally do with 1 of my Cubs) it wouldn't be a bad idea.

Reverse is an OSHA scam Cub defeated w/ the reverse/caution switch.
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I have a recently purchased 1862. When you go to reverse it shuts off the PTO.
Too much wear on the PTO and switch. How can I make it not do this??? Thanks and have a great day.
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*Not condoning or recommending this as a permanent modification - only for testing purposes*

Not sure on a 1862 Cyclops, but on the previous generation "82 series", the hydro reverse switch is mounted behind the dashboard near the shifter lever. This is a normally closed switch when operating the machine in neutral or forward, meaning that when you move the shifter to reverse, the switch opens the circuit. To test for constant PTO operation and to make these changes are not permanent, I make a jumper wire to connect the two wires together.
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*Not condoning or recommending this as a permanent modification - only for testing purposes*

Not sure on a 1862 Cyclops, but on the previous generation "82 series", the hydro reverse switch is mounted behind the dashboard near the shifter lever. This is a normally closed switch when operating the machine in neutral or forward, meaning that when you move the shifter to reverse, the switch opens the circuit. To test for constant PTO operation and to make these changes are not permanent, I make a jumper wire to connect the two wires together.
It's the same way on a Cyclops. Or just delete the switch.
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