125 Front End

[West Valley G]

Good Morning, Pondering the front end of the 125, the camber looks
pretty goofy and she's pretty pigeon toed.
1) Generally speaking, would you just start measuring parts? Determine
what's worn and start replacing.
2) See if there is slop where parts meet and start replacing?
3)Is the right Manual for the 125 the one marked Chassis ORIGINAL in the technical
library?

When I started measuring and looking at parts I found the spindle size
.80 on my tractor. The bearing size new IH-384881-R94 was .75".
That's when I knew I needed help as usual. Thanks again.

Ken

[spndncash]

1x4/5 Series is the one you want I think its page three of the tractor tech documents.

I think they all have a bit of positive camber by design. that can look a bit like toe in...toe in is much better than toe out.

depending on your tire design it may be difficult to measure the toe. jack the front tires up and spin them. put a marker up to the tread and draw a line on the tread while spinning. do the same to the other side. on the front side of the tire measure the distance between the lines r-l and at that same height do it on the rear side of the tire..easiest to just put a 2x4 or 4x4 on the ground and use that to get uniform height

adjust the tie rod to bring to 1/32" to 1/8" toed in. since your front end is old I would suggest closer to 1/8" ...slop in the hub bearings, spindles, king pins, tie rods etc will allow it to move outward -> toe out which is bad for wear.

[West Valley G]

Thanks for the input, out of curiosity what does the 1x4x5 refer to.
I can't seem to open up that manual, locks up. I can open the other
manuals just not that one.

Ken

[R Bedell]

The 1x4/5 refers to all Tractors of the 1x4 and 1x5 models regardless of Gear or Hydro drives. X indicating the Horse Power, ie: 0 = 10, or 2 = 12.

[spndncash]

I am not an IT guy but.... try to restart the computer and/or clear cookies. I can open that 1x4/5 file no problem. for the steering the 1x2/3 manual is the same - so you can use that manual. I don't think there are any part sizes or dimensions for the parts to determine what is worn or not.
if you lift one side, wiggle at 3 and 9 o'clock to check drag link, tire rods ball joints and bearings. wiggle at 12 and 6 o'clock for bearings and steering knuckle (king pins). also check the steering knuckle to "arm" (roll pin wear). the ball joint at the steering box wears as well. the steering box wears as well.
there is a pin that attaches the axle to the chassis that can wear as well.

[West Valley G]

Thank you,

That helps me continue educating myself. Got the toe-in figured out and it looks a whole lot better. Something is pretty messed up
with camber, ( I hope I am using that term correctly) on the right side. With a simple tape I can see that the middle top of tire is 3/4 in closer to the frame then the left. I believe the wheel bushings are pretty well shot but also thinking the maybe that right steering knuckle could be bent.

Will look today time permitting,

Ken

[spndncash]

on a cub cadet toe is the only thing that is "adjustable" of course with some force and the blue wrench (heat) it can all be adjustable!

it is highly unlikely that the cast iron axle is bent.

if the camber issue you see is in the bearings there should be a looseness to the wheel (easiest to determine with the wheel off the ground)

the steering knuckle can bend much more easily the right and the left should be at the same angle easy to replace.

of course wear in any of these parts should show up as motion or looseness where there should be none.

[ChristopherCT]

I misread the camber on my front end recently! I was sure that something was messed up with the casting or the wheel. Until I realized that the uneven road was, or course, allowing the axel to pivot and create the illusion of a problem. I am still truly a beginner. What a noob! (as the kids say.)

[West Valley G]

The thing about being Noob is that there is so many cool things to explore.
Now matter how much I learn I will still never live long enough to see all
I want to see.

Ken

[ChristopherCT]

Ken, I agree. I often drive my wife and son crazy with my rampant style of curiosity. Regarding the Cub Cadets, I think its a wonderful thing to stare at the mechanisms, use them, repair them and then use them again with a new knowledge of just what causes them to function (and sometimes fail). I think my little Cub Cadet has now inspired me to go back to fixing my own car too.