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Old 04-02-2017, 03:36 PM
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I don't read anywhere here where you have confirmed you have or have not any spark?

None of this other stuff matters if you have no spark.
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Old 04-02-2017, 03:58 PM
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I don't think I'm getting a spark. An E3, FF20 is the plug i'm using with a 40 gap. Can anyone confirm this is the correct plug?
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Old 04-02-2017, 04:07 PM
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I don't think I'm getting a spark. An E3, FF20 is the plug i'm using with a 40 gap. Can anyone confirm this is the correct plug?
CHAMPION RC12YC .035 gap
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Old 04-02-2017, 04:07 PM
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I'm not getting a spark. i've connected the plug and grounded to the block and not seeing any spark.
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Old 04-02-2017, 04:32 PM
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Disconnect the white kill wire at the engine and try it again. If you get spark you have a wiring problem, if no spark you probably have a bad mag.
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CHAMPION RC12YC .035 gap
Got it. So on the E3.20 packaging it states that it replaces the Champion RC12YC.

If i'm not getting a spark at all wondering if my battery leads are not hooked up correctly.

I have 2 black wires leaving the negative terminal. One goes to being grounded to the body. Not sure where the other leads to. The starter? The single red goes to the solenoid.
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Old 04-02-2017, 07:31 PM
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Battery has nothing to do with spark, it's a magneto ignition. If you disconnected the white kill wire like I told you to and it cranks over you should have spark unless the mag is bad. But if you want to start swapping wires around and cook something be my guest. I'm starting to think that maybe you should take it to someone that knows what they are doing considering all of the parts you have replaced. I'm not trying to be rude but sometimes it's cheaper in the long run. Did you download the Kohler service manual that I posted the link for? It explains everything you need to know about the engine.
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Battery has nothing to do with spark, it's a magneto ignition. If you disconnected the white kill wire like I told you to and it cranks over you should have spark unless the mag is bad. But if you want to start swapping wires around and cook something be my guest. I'm starting to think that maybe you should take it to someone that knows what they are doing considering all of the parts you have replaced. I'm not trying to be rude but sometimes it's cheaper in the long run. Did you download the Kohler service manual that I posted the link for? It explains everything you need to know about the engine.
Sam Mac, hear you loud and clear. Appreciate the help and I don't believe you're being rude either. Sounds like you've had this conversation with small engine amateurs like myself 100 times before. I have a bit more stubbornness and curiosity left to try and teach myself something so not quite at the surrendering stage. Getting close though.

You're right, the battery and all of its wiring is fine. In fact the engine turns really strong. It's getting plenty of juice and fuel - it's just not igniting. I did the little trick where I took the spark plug while connected to the lead, held it against a ground and saw no spark.

Is the location of the wire you are referring to on top of the magneto itself? This would be "kill terminal B" on page 61 of the KSM. Just want to be sure so I don't end up cooking anything.

I'm inclined to think this is the culprit because even when I had it running within the last 6 months it would run fine for 30 min then die. I'd wait 10-15 minutes and it would most likely turn over again - sometimes i'd be pushing it back to the shed.

If it's not the mag I'm throwing in the towel.
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My bet is the mag has gone to spark heaven. Everything you describe is classic dead mag time. Look up the part number then do the google thing for the best deal.
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I got 12-584-04 S

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Kohler-I...cAAOSwDk5T68fB

So funny reading the reviews from folks who bought this part. Describing my symptoms to a T.
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