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Old 10-12-2012, 11:40 AM
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I am going to lean towards a grounding issue also. Most all the electrical connectors on these newer machines are not to much better than pure crap. I have rewired 3 different machines this year due to electrical connector failures. As far as PTO's go the original poster never told what the failures were. Are they because of slippage or is the coils smoking. Lets grow up and find out what the real issues are before we start slamming peoples comprehension abilities. Just saying
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:08 PM
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Well Kelly is right the man needs to get to the bottom of this problem

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ANd what part of "BREAK IN dont you understand

So I guess you use the break in oil all season long too

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Lets grow up and find out what the real issues are before we start slamming peoples comprehension abilities. Just saying
Let's take a quick look at who initiated the comprehension issue Kelly See above remark and jab.

I fit my big boy pants just fine. I am simply trying to show with documentation that Cub suggests low RPM engagement of the electric PTO compared to what Vinnie believes.
Now I do not have a 1500 manual to go by. If it says the opposite then, the whole issue is pointless about the RPM's, but leaves that fact that the OP has a pretty serious issue obviously.
I personally prefer to keep my equipment running as long as possible without having to do a lot of replacement of parts, so I have always followed the advice of what the manual says to anything I run instead of being Cavalier about it and also will implement any mods to a unit if proven to help give longevity to the tractor, engine, or implements. Just Saying...
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:42 PM
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The pto failures i have seen are
1. put on to tight= bearings get hot
2. dirt and crankcase oil= heat, and can't fully engage
3. power wires, need to be loose, the clutch moves a little bit
4. low voltage
5. bad switches, people think that button is a punching bag
6. bad grounding, cub cadet had a recall on the "tanks"
7. belts, if it calls for a 73 3/8 belt, it dont mean go to abc auto and get one that "will work", tight belts put strain on everything
7.1 Deck, make sure its clean, and EVERYTHING moves like it should. low end cub decks are kind of a crappy design
Thats just off the top of my little brain
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:37 PM
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Heres one Im working on off a 2000 series. This has a bearing failure on it. Notice how thick the plates are. Youll see how big the magnet is too.
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:41 PM
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Now this is the one Ill bet DX3 is talking about. Notice the adjustment holes to gap the pto. Some of the AYP use this style
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:44 PM
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I tryed to up load the manual for the first style but it says its too big.
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Old 10-13-2012, 08:32 AM
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I am going to lean towards a grounding issue also. Most all the electrical connectors on these newer machines are not to much better than pure crap. I have rewired 3 different machines this year due to electrical connector failures. As far as PTO's go the original poster never told what the failures were. Are they because of slippage or is the coils smoking. Lets grow up and find out what the real issues are before we start slamming peoples comprehension abilities. Just saying

This machine is a 1500 series lawn tractor. There is no mecanical adjustment on this pto, nor is there ANY reference to a break in period for the pto. the pto would suddenly disengage while mowing [not a belt slippage issue] I directly connected battery to pto... 12.5v @ pto. pto engaged but i could turn by hand with effort, so isprayed carb cleaner on assembly,and it worked for a while. 10 more minutes. which leads me to believe the dogs might be wearing out, or magnnetic field weakening. You may be onto something in regards to getting a new battery...might be a current issue. I am an electrical technician. Coil showed resistance, but don't know if breaking down under prolonged usage. Thanks guys
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no reference to pto break in or special care in1500 manual.
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:56 PM
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John

Have you load tested the batt? Youll be surprised just because the batt shows 12.5, dosnt mean it dosnt have a bad cell. If you cant get it load tested then try this.

Put your meter on the batt and have someone turn the unit over. Watch and see how low the voltage drops. If the batt is good, then it shouldnt drop below 9 volts.
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