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Old 07-18-2016, 06:24 PM
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Roland

At 9 o'clock. Post 5. (red) from post 2 of the traction solenoid, then (pink) to E of the Traction Motor Switch & onward (pink) to C of the Blade Motor Switch.
Top Left: Direct to 100 amp Fuse. No Post Number. The 100 amp fuse was actually mounted on this post.
Top Right: Direct to Post 6 at 3 o'clock via 90' copper "L". No Post Number.
At 3 o'clock. Post 6 (dark blue) to Right circuit breaker and onward (dark blue) to Right Blade Motor.
Also Post 6 (dark blue) to Left circuit breaker and onward (dark blue) to Left Blade Motor.
At Center Right. Post 7 (black/white) to Left blade motor thermal switch.
At Center Left. Post 8 (purple) from Post C of the Traction Motor Switch.
Posts 7 & 8 are the solenoid "energizing" coil lines.

If it would be more helpful I can scan a copy of the IH Cadet service manual page that has the full wiring diagram. Just let me know. This solenoid and the wiring to and from it are quite confusing.

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Old 07-18-2016, 08:42 PM
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OK...How about ID'ing from this

A =
B =
C =
D =
E =
F =
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Old 07-19-2016, 04:00 PM
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Based on your lettered markup:

A = Black/White to the Left Blade Motor Thermal Switch.
B = Purple from the Traction Motor Switch.
C = Red from the Traction Motor Solenoid.
Pick to the Traction Motor Switch & onward to the Blade Motor Switch.
D = Directly connected to the 100 Amp Fuse.
E = Directly connected to F.
F = Dark Blue. 1 each to the Right & Left Blade Motors.

I have been trying to paste the actual wiring diagram, but the file size is too large to attach. I also cannot figure out how to crop the diagram down to the actual solenoid area.

I hope the above description is sufficient.

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Old 07-19-2016, 04:06 PM
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THANK YOU...That helps.

Send the diagram you have to: onlycubcadets@yahoo.com

I'll see if it different than the one I have.
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Old 07-19-2016, 06:35 PM
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I will send the diagram.

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Old 07-22-2016, 08:39 PM
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I have it all figured out now. I have sent you an E-mail with all the data and diagrams. Also, I have found aftermarket replacements for both solenoids if that is needed.

Hope this helps.
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Old 07-25-2016, 11:04 AM
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Great Job Roland

Thanks a whole lot for the time and effort that you put into this. The "corrected" wiring diagram will really help me to bench test all of the components.

You and I both agree that the Indak Key Switch #3A463A is a suitable replacement for the Traction Motor Switch. I believe that Indak Toggle Switch #A223A is a suitable replacement for the Blade Motor Switch.

I would appreciate your information on what you have found to be replacement solenoids. Whether I will need them is yet to be determined, but to be prepared is the best approach.

Again and for the umpteenth time, Thanks.

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Check your e-mail account for the requested data.
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Old 07-31-2016, 11:41 PM
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ML, sorry I haven't entered this conversation earlier, but I just discovered it this evening. I think you can find the answer to your question of how much voltage is required here, http://www.cubcadetman.com/cc/catego...neous/cadet95/

When I first got my 95 I searched for a lot of the information you're now looking for without much success. I enjoyed your informative posts.

The 95 is my grandkids favorite tractor. Someday I hope they give me a chance to compete the restoration. I'm still looking for replacement decals.I think I have someone that will make them for me if I can get better copies of the original decals.
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Thanks for the info. I suspected that I would need 36V to truly test everything and your link site confirmed it.

All of the credit for the electrical issues that I was originally asking about goes to Roland. He did most, if not all, the leg work. He found that the schematic as shown in the IH Service Manual has a minor flaw in it that caused all of my confusion. It was in the depiction of the Blade Motor Solenoid.

I hadn't planned on doing a restoration. I simply wanted a clean runner. However, with the Traction motor running and the drive train in operating condition, I then bumped into the failure of the Blade motors to energize and run. That started the whole thing. Now, with everything disassembled in order to fully test all of the components, I have come to the decision that I might just as well go through a complete restore. Next spring looks like the earliest I will be mowing with it. Decals look to be a major issue. I looked a bit and haven't seen anyplace with anything. Let me know if you find anything. I have a local sign maker that will do custom work, and his work is excellent. If he sees an original, he can replicate it. The issue is the cost that "specials" can be.

Interestingly, I picked up my 95 in Indiana. You're now the third other member here with a 95 that I know of. I have wondered how many are still in existence.

If I find any info of value, I will post it here and hopefully help out other 95 owners. Roland confirmed that there is an Indak keyed switch that is a good replacement for the OEM switch and I found a good replacement for the blade motor switch. Roland also provided me with good solenoid replacements for the both of the originals. If you want the makes & models, let me know.

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