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Old 07-31-2018, 10:38 PM
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My neighbor asked me to work on his xtl1050 with a 22hp Kawasaki twin. His grandson and a buddy had worked on it and said it needed a valve guide. I removed the valve covers and started it to determine which valve guide was leaking. The number 2 cylinder shot oil out at a high volume but it was not through the guide but a hole under the tappet and push rod. The hole seems to be there intentionally.
So my question is what would cause there to be pressure that would expel the oil out in a large volume enough to overcome the drain. 38D0E692-EA93-4215-A0DD-18E08A3DDC64.jpg the hole is below the tappet appearing at the right in this picture.
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Old 07-31-2018, 10:45 PM
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Maybe they should take it to a mechanic.....

You took off more than the valve covers.
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Old 07-31-2018, 10:52 PM
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One more question..... how did you figure out it was shooting oil up out of that hole? I want to hear this.....
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Old 08-01-2018, 07:46 AM
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Now I ain't never seen a cow a suckky ingin'
but me thinks it is an over yer head valve design, as I see no valves in da block.
iffin dat so, me thinks it is a pressure feed earl passage sews things up in the top like rockin' arms don't squeek when workin' real fast.
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Old 08-01-2018, 05:57 PM
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103EF915-0679-446A-810B-8CC708ACEC95.jpg here is a photo before I removed the head. The oil was shooting out of this passage by the push rod as I mentioned. It is a pressurized system. Again the question is why is there enough pressure to push the oil out of this passage in a volume more than the drain can a accommodate ?
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Old 08-01-2018, 06:23 PM
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It's not more than the drain can handle. The "passage" you keep referring to IS the drain. With the pushrods out, the lifters will squirt oil. This is basic engine knowledge. It's not meant to be ran, or cranked with the push rods out and the valve cover off. Of coarse it shoots oil everywhere. How do you think it stays lubricated while it's running? Only other possibility is it has too much oil in it, but surely you would have checked that....

Like I said, sounds like your neighbor needs to find a shop to take it to.
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Old 08-01-2018, 06:34 PM
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Sorry I was under the impression that this was a group to help others with there cub cadet issues. I guess I need to go back to the Simplicity group with quality equipment and people. Thanks anyway.
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Sorry I was under the impression that this was a group to help others with there cub cadet issues. I guess I need to go back to the Simplicity group with quality equipment and people. Thanks anyway.
It's not your Cub. Seems to me you just joined up to fix someone elses.
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Sorry I was under the impression that this was a group to help others with there cub cadet issues. I guess I need to go back to the Simplicity group with quality equipment and people. Thanks anyway.
Quality questions get quality answers... Same rules apply in most things in life.. Crap in.. crap out. Good luck!
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Sorry I was under the impression that this was a group to help others with there cub cadet issues. I guess I need to go back to the Simplicity group with quality equipment and people. Thanks anyway.
We are going to miss you, but you might check that the drain back-to-sump passage as we cannot see if it is plugged.
Normally the design of an engine is the lubrication is metered or restricted and the gravity return is usually larger that the supply of lube oil.
Not having the engine in my possession, or having worked on it I have no way to access the problem or know what a well meaning individual has done or even what the original problem might of been other than you say it needed a valve guide.
Just some things off the top of my head on an unfamiliar to me engine.

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Jon is very qualified I'm positive, but we get a lot of "one and done" "new members" here that never to even say thanks for the help or report back
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