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Old 02-18-2021, 09:51 PM
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Default 3000 Series Pedal Bushings - Slow In Reverse

I've seen a couple mentions while reading other threads about worn bushing in the forward and reverse pedals. As mentioned in those posts, when I'm moving in reverse ,and pull backwards on the forward pedal, the tractor speeds up significantly. Now that I've found I do have this issue, I can't seem to find these other references. What bushings need replaced? I do have the Parts Manual, but there are a lot of different bushings. I'd like to go ahead and order what I need before tearing into it. Thanks in advance.
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Old 02-18-2021, 10:30 PM
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In this screen shot, I'm looking at PNs 40, 41, 42, and 43. 40 is a brass bushing and there are four of them, two on each side. There are two 41 plastic bushings, one on the end of the rear control rod and the other on the reverse lever. There are two 42 plastic bushings on the reverse lever. Are these 42 bushings and the one 41 bushing the primary culprits? There is a single 43 plastic bushing on the left side. Would it be prudent to replace all of these? Do the brass bushing get sloppy?
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Old 02-19-2021, 05:57 AM
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The brass ones should be good just make sure to lube them because I've had a few that were binding up on me and causing issues. I'm not sure which machine you have but go to the parts look-up at the top of the page and use your model number. Here is a link I did below on my 3205 and it tells you how many are needed for your machine. I would buy a few extra if you are going to keep the tractor for future use. Good luck and take some pics for us.


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Old 03-19-2021, 11:37 PM
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I'll check in my 3000 series tractors and as well and let you know. This was also the case on my parents 2185 tractor from new. My suspicion is that it's not a wear issue, it's a design issue. CCC does not want you traveling too fast in reverse. The better solution is to build a new reverse peddle with a longer push or modify the cam mechanism underneath. On the 2185 you can remove the reverse peddle and clamp in a vice and bend with a pipe wrench for faster reverse speeds. My uncle was the shop manager at the local IHC dealer. Soon as the 2185 was out of the company shop and in my dad's shop he pulled that reverse peddle off and bent it up for more travel.
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Old 03-20-2021, 05:16 PM
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Replacing the bushings couldn't hurt, but I think that shortening the black connector a bit would help get more travel to the pedal in reverse. When driving forward a formed rod pull pulls on the side of the hydro. In reverse the rod is pushing on the hydro control. This rod is buckling slightly in reverse as the rod is now in compression. This is contributing to the lost motion in the control linkage.

The black component I have circled in the image is adjustable and mine is as short as it can go right now. To make it shorter I will have to file the oblong holes a bit. It shouldn't take much maybe 1/8 of an inch.
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I removed the reverse linkage as you can see in the attached image. I'm fairly sure that the length of this link controls the max reverse speed. Shorting the link should make it reverse faster. Mine is as short as it can go at about 3 7/8 center to center. If I could find a turn buckle that adjusts from 3.5 to 4.5 inches that would be ideal.
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Got this setup. The turnbuckle is not strong enough, the ends splay open. But If I go up a size it's too long and won't fit the space. Did you get your bushings? Did it help? This is on my 3185 with about 1000 hours.
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Massey Ferguson Model 70 corn planter.
CC yard cart
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Old 05-24-2021, 08:53 PM
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Default the plastic bushings on your pedals are the culprits

The brass bushings are most likely not worn very much. The trouble with the 3000 series lies in the plastic bushings getting worn on one side, and eventually the tractor doesn't go backwards at all. I turned mine 180 degrees and then magically the tractor now moves both forward and reverse. This is a temp fix, but you can do it until you are able to get the new ones in hand.
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I didn't get much further with my experiments. Got sick of having a rope tied to the forward peddle and having to pull it for reverse. Replacing the plastic bushings is good and helpful. A nice turnbuckle with a jam nut would be better. Can lift the reverse lever higher in the neutral position and get more range of motion.
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CC yard cart
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I removed the reverse linkage as you can see in the attached image. I'm fairly sure that the length of this link controls the max reverse speed. Shorting the link should make it reverse faster. Mine is as short as it can go at about 3 7/8 center to center. If I could find a turn buckle that adjusts from 3.5 to 4.5 inches that would be ideal.
I replaced the plastic bushings and shortened up the reverse linage and it made a huge difference.
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