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Old 08-09-2018, 01:39 PM
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I wasn't real impressed either until I bought one. Now I'm quite impressed. I have zero complaints, mine have been great and up to any tasks I've thrown at it. Even better is my wife will actually use it too. She never liked any of the other Cubs I've had. She even likes snow blowing with it now that I found a Sims hard cab for it.


I have seen the hydro tiller in action and it works great, better then any belt tillers I've seen or used. It's a beast at almost 400 pounds.


I found some killer deals on them this year, the best one was a mint GT3204 with only 207hrs on it for $500.00. The runner up was a older 580hr 3204 without a deck for $250.00. I found a 48" deck that cost $200.00. They don't have the locking rear end but I never need it anyways.

If you can find one for a deal like that you could always sell it for a profit if you don't like it.
I'll still pass. I may not have ever ran one, but I've driven "other" brand of machines made just like it. Didn't care for them. Oh, I'm sure I drove one around while I was at the dealer, but I don't recall. All of the foot control hydro's I've ever been on were terrible. I can get around much faster with my hand controls. You guys who think your feet move as fast as your hands, I guarantee then don't. That's brain basic anatomy. Feet are farther away.

Anywho.... Not a big fan of hydraulic tillers. Too many expensive parts to fail. I'll keep my belt driven ones. They don't leak oil, or have an expensive pump and motor on them. Too much BS on those.

You guys can say I'm **** whatever**** but I know a good design when I see one. I'll get a SCUT/CUT and a 540 PTO tiller before I get one of those GT combo's. The SCUT/CUT foot control hydro's seem to be much better than the GT ones. Probably because they cost a bunch more money.
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:44 PM
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I'll still pass. I may not have ever ran one, but I've driven "other" brand of machines made just like it. Didn't care for them. Oh, I'm sure I drove one around while I was at the dealer, but I don't recall. All of the foot control hydro's I've ever been on were terrible. I can get around much faster with my hand controls. You guys who think your feet move as fast as your hands, I guarantee then don't. That's brain basic anatomy. Feet are farther away.

Anywho.... Not a big fan of hydraulic tillers. Too many expensive parts to fail. I'll keep my belt driven ones. They don't leak oil, or have an expensive pump and motor on them. Too much BS on those.

You guys can say I'm **** whatever**** but I know a good design when I see one. I'll get a SCUT/CUT and a 540 PTO tiller before I get one of those GT combo's. The SCUT/CUT foot control hydro's seem to be much better than the GT ones. Probably because they cost a bunch more money.

I'm guessing you can't play drums.

So how well can you steer adjust your speed and operate your hydraulic controls at the same time??? Basic human anatomy shows we only have two hands, not three.

I'm not a fan of most GT foot controls either, they lack precision. Even SCUT/CUTs with foot controls can be lacking especially if you need to use your heal for reverse.


It's user preference that's all. I will say I'd rather have a SCUT with a rear 540rpm PTO too. It probably won't mow as nice but that short coming is offset by the other things. I could easily live without a locking rear too if I had individual wheel brakes. That way I'd be able to use both of my feet and hands at the same time even if one hand is only operating a 12 ounce dispenser.
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Old 08-09-2018, 03:22 PM
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I know john deere has it but has anybody figured out a way other then welding the gears to make a cub gt into a rear end set up like the deere? Now that my foot drive is almost done that maybe my next gota have. I'm working with a 1872 if that makes a difference.?
So why the desire for diff lock or posi?
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Old 08-09-2018, 05:30 PM
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So why the desire for diff lock or posi?
Beats me? The only farm tractors we had that had them I was taught to LEAVE IT ALONE!!!! Dad tried to get one out of a mud hole some kid drove in once and broke the differential lock. We kept enough implements being repaired with the wheels slipping, would hate to see if we had the rears locked together.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:56 PM
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Just making conversation.... not debating:


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I'm guessing you can't play drums.
I do not play drums.


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So how well can you steer adjust your speed and operate your hydraulic controls at the same time??? Basic human anatomy shows we only have two hands, not three.
That is true, there are a lot of controls on the '82 styled tractors.... but you don't have to adjust your speed, lift and turn all at the same time often. I will state, when pushing snow, it would be nice to integrate some controls. But, it only takes a second and a half for the blade to come off the ground, and then that hand can go back to the wheel. I use my foot on the brake to slow the machine if I need to slow down or stop. Usually the steering wheel gets ignored. In short order, one hand or the other frees up. I'll still be more than happy to race you if you like. Beat you every time, lol.


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It's user preference that's all.
To not quote all you said, but go off of it, yes, a "tractor" is better all the way around. These machines were just a bit ahead of their time, and they clearly were a transition tractor to the SCUT's. Now days the lawn mowers are basically lawn tractors, with little or no ability to be a "tractor" outside of looks. If you want to ground engage, you need a SCUT. Back then, anyone who needed that kind of machine likely already owned one. How many suburbanites bought a Cub Cadet O, or the subsequent models and the only thing it ever did all it's life was cut grass?? A lot of them, and that's the truth. Frustratingly enough to me, the SGT's... even ones with a 3pt and rear PTO. How many of those machines are there out there that neither of those two things have EVER been used for their actual purpose?? Most of them. Heck, there are guys on here who would trip over each other and fight for one... and never use it like intended. Cut grass with it, or park it in the shed and look at it. Silly.
But back to the quoted part.... it's not all user preference that I'm looking at. Far more. I don't care for the rear end, the endless hydraulics, the whole design of the machine. Frankly, I don't care for the hydraulic controls on the left side. All farm tractors they are on the right. Every control should be on the right side as far as I'm concerned. None on the left at all. Left hand is for steering, right hand works the levers. I don't want to switch what I spend a lifetime doing. But mainly.... I just don't like the build. And I really don't like the hydraulic tiller. Just too expensive, bulky and if there is an issue big dollars to fix. But I do agree.... OPINION. I'm not disagreeing with you. Just stating my position.
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So why the desire for diff lock or posi?
I have a jb jr on front and do dirt work also need it to remove the muck the floods leave behind.
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I have a jb jr on front and do dirt work also need it to remove the muck the floods leave behind.
Never needed diff lock on my 1811. Oh, sure it would be nice.... but with loaded tires and wheel weights, if you spin a tire, your out of traction anyway. Diff lock isn't going to make much difference.
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Frankly, I don't care for the hydraulic controls on the left side.

The funny part about this is I think that if any of the tractors listed in your signature have factory hydraulic controls they would be mounted on the left hand side also...

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The funny part about this is I think that if any of the tractors listed in your signature have factory hydraulic controls they would be mounted on the left hand side also...

They do.... and I hate them too, but at least they are on the dash right next to the steering wheel. Don't have to move my hand far. I'd like to build a custom set up on the 1811. Maybe someday.

The dual stick 1250 has them on the right next to the hydro. I haven't ever driven it, as it was in pieces when I got it, and I've never put it together. Curious if I'd like it better.
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I'm with Jon, give me a good hand job any day. Heck with that foot stuff

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