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Old 08-01-2018, 11:45 AM
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Default 1863 fuel line routing

I tried to crank the 1863 yesterday and it was out of gas. I poured some more in it and saw it coming out on the ground. This morning I took the fender pan off, put a little more gas in it and found the gas dripping off the fuel line about even with the pump. I ran a new line as I pulled the old one out. When I got the old line out I found a hole about where the lift trunnion is. I think I changed this line when I got the tractor in 2012 but I'm not sure. New and old line (old is Gates) went into frame on left, along the bottom inside of the frame up to a guide and under the air dam to the fuel pump. Does any of that sound wrong, looks like a lot of ways I could routed it wrong. I'm going to replace all the line, clean the fittings and replace the grommets.
Oh yea.I did take the lift adjustment rod out when I worked on it last year, maybe I pinched the line then.
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Fuel line should be routed such that it doesn't rub on anything that moves, or anywhere it can be pinched. Find that path and use it. Pretty simple.
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Old 08-02-2018, 11:40 AM
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I guess I was overthinking it. I ended up moving the line up above the wiring harness and zip tying it there. When I got the old line out I found 3 holes about the size of a finish nail where the red marks are. I can't imagine what made them. I ran all new gas line, cleaned tank fittings, put in new rubber tank grommets, and poured 2 gal of gas in it and it's not leaking anywhere. I hoped the holes would show but I guess I need to spend more than $150 on a phone for that.Thanks
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Maybe this will show up.
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Odd..... looks like something punctured or bored a hole in it.

Wonder if there is a bug that will bore into rubber? I've not had it happen, but it could.

One time, had a fuel line rupture on my wife's van. Couldn't figure out what caused it, but when I removed it, I would have sworn it was bitten in two. Really puzzled me. About a week later, I caught a groundhog climbing up into the underside of our cars. Apparently, he climbed up under there and thought he'd chomp the fuel line. I shot him. No more issues.
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I shot him. No more issues.
Simple solutions like that are usually the best.
I'm thinking a defective fuel line or some kind of boring bee. Maybe the rare "Spike Tooled Chipmunk".
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Maybe this will show up.
Are all three holes same size and look the same? Looks like some one ran a drill or a self taper in it. Strange.

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Odd..... looks like something punctured or bored a hole in it.

Wonder if there is a bug that will bore into rubber? I've not had it happen, but it could.
LOL.. maybe is was that ant from the Rubber Tree plant song!

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Yes, all three holes look the same.
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I had a rat or 2 chew under the hood of an old 6 cyl chebby farm truck I parked in front of the corn crib one winter.
When trying to start it spring time, it was missing and running badly when it did.
When opening the hood, the damage was obvious.
The Rodents chewed on all the plug wires as well as several vacuum lines & the rubber flex fuel line to the fuel pump.
Also found several wires with insulation missing
Although the fuel line got replaced it was not leaking/chewed through.
Oh, did I mention they built a nice nest in the heater core box.
Didn't find that out till one cold day the following fall.
Rat piss/shit is pungent for a L-O-N-G time
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I had some fuel line once that was perforated like what you have. The holes did not go all the way into the INSIDE of the hose but JUST through the outer jacket to where a nylon rope weave/wrapping was. I remember someone telling me once the outer jacket was only to proteCt the inner core and if fuel starts pouring out of the holes, the inner (fuel carrying) hose had failed.

On another note, my brother had an 1863 that had a strange fuel problem. It could run all day with nobody sitting in the seat, but if you sat on it, it would not be long before the engine was running out of fuel. We found a previous owner routed the fuel line between the frame and part of the fender pan. The weight in the seat or feet on the foot rests pinched the line so no fuel would get through.
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