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Old 01-26-2019, 11:22 PM
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Default Grader drive train

Anybody have an idea how the rear wheels are driven in this build? Is there a chain inside the final drive housing? Did this come from another machine or do you think it was custom built? Why would this be done this way rather than two axles?
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Old 01-27-2019, 12:38 AM
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Anybody have an idea how the rear wheels are driven in this build? Is there a chain inside the final drive housing? Did this come from another machine or do you think it was custom built? Why would this be done this way rather than two axles?
Frank Looks like you may have a grader project on your mind? yes I believe those are chain drive inside the housings....likely homemade but could be off of something else.. Looks like it would be and awesome project with those two new prime candidates you have just drug in!!
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I would agree that it has drive sprockets on the stub axles, inside the chain cases.
This makes for a less expensive drive system than making up a gear case.
Also routing the chain properly on the drive sprocket on the original shortened axles, eliminates having to flip the ring gear to reverse the rotation as the engine/ drive line is operating backwards .
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Roller chain sounds good to me.
So, you gonna make a grader or another dump truck?
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Old 01-27-2019, 09:55 PM
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I'm just in research mode at this point.

I've looked at articulated 4x4s (as twoton surmised the other day) but don't see a practical use for one that a regular Cub can't do almost as well. (unless I'm missing something). They are neat, and a bunch have been done. But I'm not sure I'd actually use it for anything.

I've always been fascinated by motor graders. I have a good bit of gravel drive to maintain and rear blades on my other tractors (the Ford and the Kubota) work OK but still suffer from the fact that they are outside the wheelbase, so don't have the leveling capability that a belly mounted blade has. Of course, the longer the wheelbase, the better the belly blade works at leveling.

I'm just noodling on what to try next...
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I would agree that it has drive sprockets on the stub axles, inside the chain cases.
This makes for a less expensive drive system than making up a gear case.
Also routing the chain properly on the drive sprocket on the original shortened axles, eliminates having to flip the ring gear to reverse the rotation as the engine/ drive line is operating backwards .
I think you can make the hydro work in reverse by turning the valve plates? I thought I heard that somewhere.
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I think you can make the hydro work in reverse by turning the valve plates? I thought I heard that somewhere.
I looked at the setup in the picture and he turned the engine around.
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I looked at the setup in the picture and he turned the engine around.
Yes, he turned the engine around, so now the PTO side is facing forward. It rotates CCW, looking at the PTO. As opposed to CW, looking at the flywheel.

Its not clear how he's driving the hydro, but if he ran a belt or chain from the PTO side of the engine down to the input of the hydro, it would be run in the correct direction.
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You can run the hydro in the opposite direction if you turn the charge pump 180* and reinstall the 2 bolts.
They are made to do that because they fit a lot of applications for
non-cub equipment.
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I wonder if this is a pulley being driven by the PTO end of the motor?

He also needs to drive a hydraulic pump to operate the blade, though you might be able to use a ported hydro to do that.
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