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Old 09-15-2017, 06:54 AM
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Hello Everyone,

Picking up my XT2 46" with Fabricated deck today and I have a question. I have heard non ethanol gas is better for mowers and fortunately have a station nearby that sells it. What do you guys know about this and is it worth using?

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Old 09-15-2017, 08:49 AM
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Ethanol rears its head when gas sits for a period of time. If you can run the tank empty or near empty the ethanol won't give you a problem. If the machine sits a while with ethanol in the carb, that's when it'll give you problems. If you've got a station close, by all means go for it. My cub has ethanol fuel in it all the time. My carb needs cleaned too so for now I'm not worried about it. But all my 2 stroke stuff has 100 octane low lead (av gas) in it and fires up 2nd pull. I don't have a station super close to me to get ethanol free or I'd probly do it. Sorry for the rambling!
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:41 AM
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If you can get ethanol free then go for it but I've never had an issue with ethanol even in tractors that have sat a while.
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Old 09-15-2017, 11:17 AM
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Are not the newer Cubs designed for e-gas?
My GTX2154 says right on the fuel cap, good for up to 10% e-gas.
I use non e-gas in all the older stuff though, w/1oz MMO per gal.
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Old 09-16-2017, 07:37 PM
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I use non ethanol exclusively in my farm equipment and would use nothing else. I buy my non ethanol from the Chiggar Ranch gas station in Dublin Texas (shameless advertising plug) and it costs about .15 cents per gallon more.

I have rebuilt or replaced carbs on countless equipment for mindlessly leaving ethanol containing gas in the tank/carb over the winter. If you don't believe ethanol creates problems for smaller lawn equipment like mowers, weedeaters, etc...just take a look at the listings on craigslist next spring for equipment that won't start and the owners believes the carb needs cleaning. Or just leave it in your own equipment and see what happens.

If you live in the midwest, ethanol is music to your ears. Here, is just makes my ears ring.
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Old 10-06-2017, 09:13 AM
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There is several posts on you tube on how to remove Ethanol from gas. It seems rather easy.
I haven't had the time to try it yet .
here is a link to one of the videos to remove ethanol from gasoline.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onCG7mIprfE
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Ethanol rears its head when gas sits for a period of time. If you can run the tank empty or near empty the ethanol won't give you a problem. If the machine sits a while with ethanol in the carb, that's when it'll give you problems. If you've got a station close, by all means go for it. My cub has ethanol fuel in it all the time. My carb needs cleaned too so for now I'm not worried about it. But all my 2 stroke stuff has 100 octane low lead (av gas) in it and fires up 2nd pull. I don't have a station super close to me to get ethanol free or I'd probly do it. Sorry for the rambling!
Ethanol gas is just as good as non ethanol gas if you have good fuel storage habits. Check the fuel requirements for your small engine by looking at the small engine web site or a service manual. Running 100 octane fuel on an engine that design to run on 90 octane will leave carbon deposits.

Some of the things you can do to improve fuel shelf life are:
1. Buy enough fuel to last 30 days. Any fuel over 30 days old is added to my truck's fuel tank.

2. Shut the fuel off to the carb and let the carb run dry.

3. Use a fuel stabilizer year round.

4. All small engines should be run on unleaded gas. Lead (even low lead) leave deposits.

Yes you can run non ethanol and av gas fuel. Those fuels cost more and hurt performace.

I do have a station selling non ethanol fuel nearby. Fuel is $0.40 to $0.50 a gallon higher. I have heard of few that are having carb-performance issues using non ethanol fuel from that station.

I've been using E10 fuel for close to 15 years with no fuel related issues. The majority of the fuel-carb issues I see are do to poor fuel storage habits.
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I've been using E10 fuel for close to 15 years with no fuel related issues. The majority of the fuel-carb issues I see are do to poor fuel storage habits.
This don't explain all problem they got with Ethanol pipeline! The fuel is always "Fresh" in those pipe so why in the h... they get so rusty after a short period compare to the ethanol free one? It most be Murphy law...
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This don't explain all problem they got with Ethanol pipeline! The fuel is always "Fresh" in those pipe so why in the h... the get so rusty after a short period compare to the ethanol free one? It most be Murphy law...
Sounds like a supplier-pipeline issue to me. It wouldn't surprise me to see refiners adding water to cause issues.
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Old 10-07-2017, 06:09 AM
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I don't know any place in this country that E 10 fuel is transported via pipeline.

Matter of fact, it isn't transported via pipeline due to the fact that moisture can get in the pipeline and cause problems.

Keep your E 10 in sealed containers and you won't have any water problems with it.
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