Cub Cadet Loader Questions

[IHCubCadet147]

I want a cub with a loader. Probably not soon, but I just want you get some ideas.

1. Can a loader be run off the transmission without an extra hydraulic pump?
2. Are there any loaders that attach to any tractors without much modifications?
3. Would it be difficult for someone who knows almost nothing about hydraulics to make one work?
4. Would it be better/cheaper to buy a tractor and loader and put it together myself, or get a tractor with a loader already on it? I know the price depends on a lot of things, but I'm just trying to get an idea.

[J-Mech]

I understand wanting to know about things...... but if you aren't actively looking.....

My first question is why do you "need" a loader? What are you going to do with it? How are you, at 16, going to pay for a loader? Who is going to help you mount it? Are you capable of fabrication? Do you own a welder? Drill press? Have fabrication skills?

Nothing great about a GT with a loader. SGT with a loader is "better". I for one am not a fan of a loader on that small of a tractor. Just not big enough to be really "useful". My dad has a little JD 1050 SCUT. Has a loader for it and it's not really all that impressive. And it's bigger than a SGT.....

[IHCubCadet147]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

I understand wanting to know about things...... but if you aren't actively looking.....

My first question is why do you "need" a loader? What are you going to do with it? How are you, at 16, going to pay for a loader? Who is going to help you mount it? Are you capable of fabrication? Do you own a welder? Drill press? Have fabrication skills?

Nothing great about a GT with a loader. SGT with a loader is "better". I for one am not a fan of a loader on that small of a tractor. Just not big enough to be really "useful". My dad has a little JD 1050 SCUT. Has a loader for it and it's not really all that impressive. And it's bigger than a SGT.....

I don't "need" one, but it would be nice to have. I don't know yet how I will pay, I'm just trying to get ideas. About how much should I expect to pay for something like this? My dad could weld pretty good and help mount it. I understand it is not going to do what a larger tractor will do. I just want it for light work around the yard and driveway.

[zippy1]

Hey, I get it. I was your age one time, believe it or not.
I wanted a lot of "cool" things as it seems you do. But at 16, working, making money to pay to keep a car licensed, insured, and gas in it, was my priorities.
And if you have the urge for a FEL, then you will have a lot of work to do, to pay for one, because a good one nowadays don't come cheap, and if you find one "cheap" it'll prolly need money, and knowhow to make it worth your while. Dreaming is good at your age. But just poke around the forum to get on idea, of what's all involved...

[R Bedell]

My first question is why do you "need" a loader? What are you going to do with it? How are you, at 16, going to pay for a loader?

Well, Jonathon, that is none of your damn business.

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by R Bedell

Well, Jonathon, that is none of your damn business.

Boy, it's a good thing we cleared that up.

By the way. I have my name spelled out in my sigature. When are you going to spell it right??

[IHscout79]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

I understand wanting to know about things...... but if you aren't actively looking.....

My first question is why do you "need" a loader? What are you going to do with it? How are you, at 16, going to pay for a loader?...

Ohh lil’ Jonathan... never got a hug from his father....poor lil guy.

[Cub Cadet 123]

Originally Posted by IHscout79

Ohh lil’ Jonathan... never got a hug from his father....poor lil guy.

Come on Justin. That's not we are about here....Let's keep it relevant to helping out one of our newest members.

Cub Cadet 123

[IHCubCadet147]

Originally Posted by jbrewer

If you're not in a big hurry, you can find one "affordable" . There's was or is one on one of the FB cub forums and it seems to me it was about $1500.

If you want it, go for it! It'll be a fun experience and if you buy sensibly you'll get your money back out of it when and if you're ready to move on.

Here's to ya!

I'm going to watch CL and FB for deals. I'm not really in a hurry.

Originally Posted by twoton

Another option;

http://www.pf-engineering.com/

Thanks for the link. I may think about that.

Originally Posted by Cub Cadet 123

Sorry Sawdustdad, but I disagree on running a FEL off of the hydraulics of the tractor. My Workhorse loader came with a NOS pump and it is still NOS. I have the loader ran off of my hydraulics on my tractor and It raises, lowers, dumps, everything just as fast as I want it to without hesitation. Mine is on a 149. The only downfall from running it off of the hydraulics of the tractor is that I had to disable the entire hydraulic lift feature of the tractor, but that is no longer necessary since it is a dedicated tractor with the FEL. It can be done and done well, if the hydraulics are shimmed up. Mine is set to lift about 400+ lbs.. The one thing that I have not done yet, but would certainly recommend that you do is to make sure that your front spindles are 1" instead of the 3/4". Also, avoid lifting 500 lbs. out of concern for breaking the front axle. I got my loader as a great deal, but most people want $1200 just for the loader. You might be able to find a home made one for slightly less or you may stumble on a really good deal on one if luck comes your way!!!

Well, forget the "cool" factor of them. They are meant for work and you will need to understand how that will affect your turning radius and center of gravity of your tractor in order to safely operate it. No one here wants you to get hurt, so think about how you will use it first and if nothing comes to mind, then you might reconsider your notion for a while. A lot of farmers like them for cleaning out stalls, due to their smaller size.

Well, lots of luck on your search!

Cub Cadet 123

Thanks for the info.

[sawdustdad]

Originally Posted by IHCubCadet147

I want a cub with a loader. Probably not soon, but I just want you get some ideas.

1. Can a loader be run off the transmission without an extra hydraulic pump?
2. Are there any loaders that attach to any tractors without much modifications?
3. Would it be difficult for someone who knows almost nothing about hydraulics to make one work?
4. Would it be better/cheaper to buy a tractor and loader and put it together myself, or get a tractor with a loader already on it? I know the price depends on a lot of things, but I'm just trying to get an idea.

Leaving all the other chatter behind,

I think you'll need a separate hydraulic pump. The charge pump on the hydrostat will make for a very sluggish loader.

Most will require some mods, but I think you can find someone to help you make them if you really want to do that. Don't let that discourage you.

Everybody has a first time working with hydraulics. You can learn. A loader project would teach you a lot.

Finally, it would certainly be simpler to find a tractor/loader already complete. But you would not learn as much and it would cost more. On the other hand, if you have no help to install one you might struggle. You'd learn a lot, but it might get frustrating, so it depends on your dedication. If you REALLY want one, then installing one you buy could be a great learning experience.

I have a loader on a kubota SCUT and it's very handy. But it's kinda a different animal than you are considering. Loaders for Cub Cadets are kinda collector items so they are expensive. If you want a CC with a loader it may cost more than another brand SCUT with a loader. And, due to size, less capable. But perhaps more fun!!

Good luck in your search!