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[QUOTE=CubbyRI;502581]OK this is the kind of confusion. I am holding in my hand a regulator that has four terminals. L, Batt, F (field), and one on the bottom that is Armature.
I can't argue if he has a v/r that is stamped "armature". |
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OK Guys, to clear it up what I am doing, I bought a 100 to restore. Since then, I have picked up a couple more tractors a 70 and a 123 IIRC, and even more parts (two hydro rears, a couple SG's) .
HOW-EVER as General Burkhalter used to say, this particular issue is with the SG I posted above and the regulator I posted above, installed on an antique engine. yes, I fitted a Cub cadet CCW SG to an antique engine in my boat. Works wonderful. BUT now I have to hook up the Regulator and discovered it is not straight forward. The SG I have is listed for a later 12x tractor. The regulator I have has terminals L-Bat-F and one unmarked on the bottom! Will it work, or not?
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Model 100 Dec 2020 - Running condition, has snow plow! Model 123 Nov 2020 Hydro needs much work, or resto, building front end loader for this one Model 100 Feb 2019 apart for total frame-off / sandblast etc resto Model 70 Sep 2020 needs total resto and an engine, or for parts Model 70/100 Mar 2021 buried in rust, frozen engine, got free for parts. two spare hydro rears "in for a penny, in for a pound!" |
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In my humble opinion, it will work if you wire it as described for the 70/100 drawing above.
However, assuming that your boat does not have a stee/metal frame where you will mount the v/r, you will need a grounding strap from the v/r case to the motor or neg terminal of the battery. |
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yep. I recall reading somewhere that the VR must have a good ground, so I ran a tinned marine wire from the VR mounting ear right to the SG bracket, using tinned marine crimp loops. As far as the tractor project, I dont think I have a wiring harness for the tractor and might make one, although I bet if I click the sponsors here I can find aftermarket harnesses. BTW, what RPM do the SGs start making a decent charge? This engine runs at 500rpm with a 10" flywheel and I made a double pulley that's IIRC 3.5" so thats 1500rpm at the generator. If you can tell me what the CC tractor rpm has to be to see the ammeter move decently, I can convert that.
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Model 100 Dec 2020 - Running condition, has snow plow! Model 123 Nov 2020 Hydro needs much work, or resto, building front end loader for this one Model 100 Feb 2019 apart for total frame-off / sandblast etc resto Model 70 Sep 2020 needs total resto and an engine, or for parts Model 70/100 Mar 2021 buried in rust, frozen engine, got free for parts. two spare hydro rears "in for a penny, in for a pound!" |
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1500 rpm is barely above idle speed for a Ciub Cadet with the Kohler engine.
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Gotta get a bigger pulley, but not a bigger boat...
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I kinda wanna see some pics of that boat engine
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Remember, this is a generator not an alternator, alt's charge a lot more at 1500 than a generator. In a kohler engine application IIRR, the motor pulley is maybe 5-6" and the motor pulley is about 2-3" So at rated 3600 motor rpm's where it charges a full 15 Amp, the generator is turning prolly near 5000 rpm's Now this is just approximation, because I haven't measured the actual size of the pulley's I don't have. |
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How many amps do you guys see with these anyway?
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Model 100 Dec 2020 - Running condition, has snow plow! Model 123 Nov 2020 Hydro needs much work, or resto, building front end loader for this one Model 100 Feb 2019 apart for total frame-off / sandblast etc resto Model 70 Sep 2020 needs total resto and an engine, or for parts Model 70/100 Mar 2021 buried in rust, frozen engine, got free for parts. two spare hydro rears "in for a penny, in for a pound!" |
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A Cub Cadet S/G at full throttle (3600 RPM's), puts out 15 Amps.
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