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Wide frame front end question
Always meant to ask this - why is almost every wide frame cub have the front tires angled inward (at the bottom touching the pavement) unlike the narrow frames that have them looking 'normal'? Hope that makes sense.
Is there any way to fix it? |
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I could try to explain king pin inclination, caster, and camber angles, scrub radius as well as the Ackerman affect, Ect, Ect and it would be as clear as mud,to most of us, and prolly me, by the time I got done typing with one figure.
Also a moot point. Best to explain, it is designed to steer easier and have a shorter turning radius by having excessive positive camber. Do not try to "fix it" unless of course, one spindle has taken a hit and sits at an obvious awkward angle compared to the other. It is worth checking the toe-in, as that affects the scrubbing of the tire on the grass, especially noticed when one turns a full turn, like around a flower bed, shrub or other obstacle that requires a tight, full lock right or left turn. |
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I do believe my Original's wheels have the same sort of angle inward (known as camber angle). As George said, it is designed that way to allow easier and better steering.
The Chassis service manual for my Original has a whole section talking about it too Screenshot 2021-01-04 at 09.35.06.jpg
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'70 107 with k301 engine swap '71 106 with 38" deck '70 147R with factory replacement k321, 42" deck '61 Original with 38" timed deck '63 70 "pinkie" 1863 with 54" deck '46 Farmall H, '50 Farmall Cub 105 x2 (parts) |
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Short answer is it makes steering easier with the wider tires.
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Thanks for the answers guys - curiosity is satisfied!
Now one last question my wide frame 169 has a tighter turning radius to the Right versus a wider turning radius to the Left. Both front tires appear to be 'normal and equal in their position. Is this normal for wideframe? Thanks again all! |
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Unbolt the Steering Linkage from the Steering Column. Set the Steering wheel in the middle of it's range. Put the front wheels straight forward. Then shorten/lengthen the linkage to match the distance between the the steering column lever arm and the steering knuckle.
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My 106 steers tighter to the left than right and I like it (and keep it) that way for one reason: mowing.
See when you mow usually you keep your deck discharge chute on the outside so that you blow the grass into the area you've already cut. This results in making mostly left turns, many of which need to be very tight turns. Therefore having the ability to make very tight left turns is helpful for me when mowing.
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I do just the opposite, I throw the clippings to the un mowed portion so they
continue to be re mowed again and again, making them almost disappear. The grass should be very dry or it will clump up, and look like fresh Horse puckies Either way, I set the steering for equal movement to the left or right. |
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Did I hear cub cadet 107 say his yard is a mini nascar track! All left turns- I know what you’re doing!!!
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Naw, no Nascar track here. Maybe it's the type of grass we have, or maybe our yard is never dry enough, but I have found after a few years of mowing it that it is always best to blow the grass out into the already mowed area rather than into the unmowed area, simply because if I blow it inward the mower deck starts bogging down real bad due to the amount of grass under it. Perhaps it doesn't look the absolute prettiest but it never turns out too bad. More often than not the parts of the yard up near the road are done with my Honda HR214 RWD pushmower, which has a bagger. It looks pretty nice done that way. I suppose it could also be due to the fact that more often than not our yard grows rather fast and isn't mowed as often as it should be...
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