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Old 01-03-2021, 05:43 PM
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I am going to say that is/was a model 70. See attached image from an IH brochure of the time.
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Old 01-03-2021, 06:50 PM
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Wow they really hacked up the frame to fit that engine in!

Guess you can't do much about it now short of locating an original Kohler and completely cutting up the mods, and trying to re-weld it back to original with the proper steel.

That engine looks like it came from a Massey Ferguson tractor. It has the right paint color, and you can see that the gas tank is turned the wrong way. Originally the engine would have been mounted sideways in the tractor it came from, to run a belt drive. Definitely not something I've seen before!

Unfortunately the original engine would have determined whether it is a 70 or 100, unless you can locate the serial number and match it somehow.
I'm hoping the Tecumseh will run, so I at least have a working tractor until I can locate a Kohler. The serial number plate on the rear end was gone, so I suppose since the tractors themselves were the same, it could be rebuilt either way, 7 or 10 hp. Guess I have to do some measuring to find out if the frame was simply cut and widened or cut, widened, and lengthened. Isn't it the same frame as almost all the other tractors of that era, so in theory could I measure on one of my 122's for comparison?
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Old 01-03-2021, 07:25 PM
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Fortunately there was no serial number tag used on the 70/100, rather it is stamped into the rear axle. There are 2 different places you could find it, (Roland beat me to it)

If the frame was lengthened then the hood of the tractor would also have had to be lengthened. It doesn't look any longer so I get the feeling that they just widened the frame. No real reason to lengthen it anyway, there's plenty of room lengthwise to wedge in just about any single-cylinder engine you want
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The 70/100 serial number was "stamped" into the Rear End Housing on the RH side by the Foot Rest. Click on this link for some reference.... Serial Numbers. Look at pictures #2 & #3.

The 70/100 serial number range is: 65459 - 127160
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The 70/100 serial number was "stamped" into the Rear End Housing on the RH side by the Foot Rest. Click on this link for some reference.... Serial Numbers. Look at pictures #2 & #3.

The 70/100 serial number range is: 65459 - 127160
Wow! I didn't know that, I was always told (by other, less reliable sources) that if the serial number plate on the rear was gone, I was out of luck. I'll look on the spot you indicated.
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With that style of steering wheel it should be a model 70.
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Location on a 70....
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Wow! I didn't know that, I was always told (by other, less reliable sources) that if the serial number plate on the rear was gone, I was out of luck. I'll look on the spot you indicated.
The CC Original (the first of the Cub Cadets) has it's serial number stamped into the side of the transaxle. Then the 70 and 100 also had their serial numbers stamped into the side of the transaxle. Early examples of the 71, 102, 122, and 123 tractors have the serial number stamped into the side of the transaxle, but the later versions of them have the serial number plate at the rear of the axle. The 1X4 1X5 series and 1X6 1X7 series also have the serial number plate at the back of the axle. Then early Wide Frame tractors came with the plate at the back of the axle, but for later ones it was moved forward, mounted on the side of the frame near the brake/clutch pedal. It was mounted in that same spot for the Quietlines and spread frames (82 series) and all the way to the Cyclops series of tractors. Exact location on the frame varies slightly over the years but they all remain in the general area of the brake pedal or clutch pedal on the left side of the machine.

I just realized I typed a whole paragraph just on Cub Cadet serial number location, sorry 'bout that
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The CC Original (the first of the Cub Cadets) has it's serial number stamped into the side of the transaxle. Then the 70 and 100 also had their serial numbers stamped into the side of the transaxle. Early examples of the 71, 102, 122, and 123 tractors have the serial number stamped into the side of the transaxle, but the later versions of them have the serial number plate at the rear of the axle. The 1X4 1X5 series and 1X6 1X7 series also have the serial number plate at the back of the axle. Then early Wide Frame tractors came with the plate at the back of the axle, but for later ones it was moved forward, mounted on the side of the frame near the brake/clutch pedal. It was mounted in that same spot for the Quietlines and spread frames (82 series) and all the way to the Cyclops series of tractors. Exact location on the frame varies slightly over the years but they all remain in the general area of the brake pedal or clutch pedal on the left side of the machine.

I just realized I typed a whole paragraph just on Cub Cadet serial number location, sorry 'bout that
No need to apologize, combined with the chart from the admin above you I'll take all the information I can get. My other two tractors are 122's, so this 70 (I'm going to start calling it that since that's the general consensus) is untrodden territory for me!
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No need to apologize, combined with the chart from the admin above you I'll take all the information I can get. My other two tractors are 122's, so this 70 (I'm going to start calling it that since that's the general consensus) is untrodden territory for me!
Alrighty then...

The interesting part is I remember all that info off the top of my head, along with a bunch more Cub info...


Think there might be something wrong with me?

Next thing I gotta memorize is the head bolt torquing pattern so I don't have to get my PDF manual
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'71 106 with 38" deck
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