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Old 06-25-2018, 11:19 AM
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I did not know this but the Firestone inner tube catalog list certain tubes as "not intended for use of liquid ballast"
Does not say why.
i.e. due to tube material or valve stem construction.
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Yes, there are specific tubes to use with fluid. There are specific valve stems for use on tubeless with fluid also. But if you are using wwf, it will be fine. CaCl2 is hard on non-fluid rated valve stems. Heck, CaCl2 will eventually get a fluid rated stem.
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I did not know this but the Firestone inner tube catalog list certain tubes as "not intended for use of liquid ballast"
Does not say why.
i.e. due to tube material or valve stem construction.
Simply because their valves can stand CaCl2 (Calcium Chloride).

Many guys suggest windshield washer fluid but if you live up North like me this can't work, after few year that fluid loose is chemical propriety and freeze in the tube. Plumbing or pool -50C antifreeze last longer and it's just a bit more expensive. "Deep pocket" ethylene glycol variant or beet juice for a designated winter machine is a smart choice up North.
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a black locust thorn.... or a 16 penny nail.
Pretty much the same thing it seems!

Black locust fence posts, the traditional split rail fence post, are getting hard to find these days.
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I got some free cub wheels that were filled with sand and plugged with a 1/2in pipe plug. They are very uncomfortable to drive with chains on a hard surface, but are fine on snow or dirt or driving fast. They weighed around 150 lbs each. I also have some 65 lb wheel weights on the tractor with them.
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Yes, there are specific tubes to use with fluid. There are specific valve stems for use on tubeless with fluid also. But if you are using wwf, it will be fine. CaCl2 is hard on non-fluid rated valve stems. Heck, CaCl2 will eventually get a fluid rated stem.
Jon,
I had 2 tubes corrode the stems in the last 5 years and leak,one blew the stem right out of the rubber
both tubes were less than 10 years old.
Of course it required pumping the chloride out & R&R tubes & refilling.
These were 15.5x38's made in China, I had gotten from Miller tire.
I talked with miller as I buy most if not all my tiring needs from them.

So the new $75 tubes are Firestones made in USA, I hope they last.
Firestone has 2 sources, (maybe more) one is a few $$ less and china origin the other is USA made and about $15 more.
To me it looks like the failed brass stems were made of brass but had impurities in them that were possibly not brass causing them to corrode and fail.
Just an FYI, I have Chloride filled tires around here that were filled in the 40's-60's and not leaking.

Pumping out 50 to 100 gallons of fluid ,removing the tire, cleaning up the rims/painting or in some cases, replacing it, then replacing the tube and remounting the tire and refilling,---- all for the want of a quality made tire stem, is a pain in the ass.
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How many gallons of whatever to fill the 6-12 rears and how many gallons for 23 x 8.50 - 12 ?

A friend with a FEL told me to fill the tires. I'm thinking nontoxic propylene glycol antifreeze, or else washer fluid but that remark above that WF loses its antifreeze properties scared me a little...
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Stop by a salvage (junk yard)
you prolly can buy used antifeeeze for near a dollar or so per gal.
Or that is what I bought some for a while ago.
This might help:
https://www.rimguardsolutions.com/co...tire-ballasts/
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Thanks man, I went to rimguard and looked it up the 23.5 x 8.50 x12 tires hold 6 gallons and with rim guard beat juice, that's 59lbs each.

Beet juice is 11 pounds per gallon antifreeze is around 9 pounds per gallon and water is about 8 and 1/2 pounds per gallon and windshield washer fluid is less than that if I remember the numbers correct...

I'm going to watch a YouTube video about how to fill the fluid into the inner tubes in there. I can imagine that there might be some air left I would think
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Model 70/100 Mar 2021 buried in rust, frozen engine, got free for parts.

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Thanks man, I went to rimguard and looked it up the 23.5 x 8.50 x12 tires hold 6 gallons and with rim guard beat juice, that's 59lbs each.

Beet juice is 11 pounds per gallon antifreeze is around 9 pounds per gallon and water is about 8 and 1/2 pounds per gallon and windshield washer fluid is less than that if I remember the numbers correct...

I'm going to watch a YouTube video about how to fill the fluid into the inner tubes in there. I can imagine that there might be some air left I would think
And you want some air left in them!
I always fill till it is about level with with the stem when it is in the 12 Oclock position.
Gives you about 90% fill, that way you have some cushion and can put air in/out without the fluid leaking out
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