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Old 09-17-2020, 06:47 PM
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Default ZTT i1042 electric PTO bearing too small?

Hi all, I have a circa 2009 ZTT i1042. I had to drop the PTO to replace the drive belt. It was so tight I fabricated a puller and still had to use a hammer and punch to drive the thing off. Of course now I cannot get the PTO back on. I measured with a dial caliper and found that the outside of the shaft is 1.003" and the inside of the bearing is .993". Shaft being 10 thousandths larger than inside of bearing = no go. Any insight or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I bought it used so I have no idea what a previous owner may have done.
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Old 05-30-2021, 10:48 AM
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I took a dremel with a stone and buzzed the inside of the bearing out just enough for it to slide on. I've been mowing with it for a month now with no problems.
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Old 05-30-2021, 04:26 PM
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#1 a caliper is not a precision measurement tool, it is an approximation.
#2 one does not "buzz" the Id of a bearing with a "Dremel" and consider it a proper repair.
#3 you did not have a .010 interference fit of the bearing,----.001 yes
I sincerely wish you luck, and glad you didn't destroy the crankshaft, like you did the bearing.
I'd watch that the bearing doesn't start to "hammering" on the crank.
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Old 05-30-2021, 06:45 PM
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#1 a caliper is not a precision measurement tool, it is an approximation.
#2 one does not "buzz" the Id of a bearing with a "Dremel" and consider it a proper repair.
#3 you did not have a .010 interference fit of the bearing,----.001 yes
I sincerely wish you luck, and glad you didn't destroy the crankshaft, like you did the bearing.
I'd watch that the bearing doesn't start to "hammering" on the crank.
So, no helpful suggestions, just criticism. Gotcha.
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Old 05-30-2021, 07:05 PM
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So, no helpful suggestions, just criticism. Gotcha.
Sorry, but it's a cobble job, where exactly are we supposed to get helpful suggestions from? One thing to learn about this forum is that constructive criticism is common. It's not meant to put you down, its just meant to knock you into the reality of the situation and help you figure out a better solution.

In all seriousness though, around this forum, if we want someone to do something, we want them to do it the right way. At the end of the day, these are only suggestions. It's your tractor, do what you wish to do with it. Just don't come back here angry if/when it fails.

If I were you, I woulda just gone to the parts lookup and found myself a replacement bearing that actually fit the crankshaft. Much easier, and garaunteed to last a long while, assuming you get a quality replacement and not a cheap Chaaiii-naww knockoff version.

Also, I think the reason you never had anyone help you in the first place is because the ZTT i series machines are uncommon, I personally have never actually seen one in real life before.
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Old 05-31-2021, 09:32 AM
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Re read my answer, and learn from it so you don't make the same mistake again.
A caliper is a very valuable tool but it is not accurate to the degree of measuring a bore to diameter.
A micrometer and telescoping gauge or an inside micrometer, properly used and set, gives accurate readings.
You did not have .010 interference fit when you "drove off" the bearing with a puller and punch/hammer.
And I suggested that you watch that you don't have a problem with the bearing damaging your crankshaft. because of it's "buzzed out" I.D. as you put it.
I would not call that criticism, it was meant as advice.
If you wanted a pat on the back for your workmanship, sorry.
I do give you an "A" for effort and advice to make you better and smarter.
if you are offended, I can't change that.
I've done some cobble jobs in my life to get something operational till a correct repair can be done, and proper parts can be obtained or in some cases, specially fabricated.

No one here gets paid for advice or help, we just try to give back in this life as people before us gave advice/experience to us.

All of us give our time which has an expiration date, it cannot be replaced, or gotten back.
it is given away to mostly strangers, FREE of charge.
Appreciation most times is understood and our only reward.
There are those that forget that, or do not understand.

Again, I wish you sincere luck with you lawnmower
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