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Stuck PTO Bearing
When I put the #450 blower on the 1811 I noticed the PTO bolt missing. Thinking nothing of it, I ordered the fancy washer and bolt and put them on today.
Now the blower cranks with the engine. It appears this bearing is froze? That's a first for me. It's on there pretty good...I mowed without the bolt when I first got it, and the previous owner had for some time. Someone must have taken the bolt out to regain function?
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I've got one on an 1863 that needs a new bearing. I've tried to get it off twice but both times ended up using a grease needle to put some grease in it and it starts working again. Mine is the old style that bolts to the block. I'm afraid that my choices are to add a little grease every now and then or destroy it getting it off.
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The 1811 uses the 917-3044 PTO clutch assembly. There is the "non-replaceable" bearing on that assembly. However, it can be replaced if you are inclined to do so. Take something like a Dremel Tool, and grind away the three "stamped dimples", thus allowing the bearing to be removed. Go to a Bearing Supply Store and purchase a replacement. Install new bearing and you can try and "re-dimple" or used a MIG welder to install a couple of "spot welds" to hold bearing in place.
You can always buy a replace PTO Clutch Assembly from Cub Cadet or third party vendors (ie: Xtreme PTO's).
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I'd investigate why adding the retaining bolt bolt locks up the clutch.
Several reasons that could happen: One would be the washer is too large and touching the outer diameter of the bearing. Another is the spacer in the clutch isn't correct, or too short. some clutches had 2 different spacers, and I don't remember if your paticular clutch is one of them. And yes, as others have said, it could be the bearing is locked up. just something to muddy the waters while you have the clutch removed determining the cause. |
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Hopefully you can get the PTO off without damaging it. I replace all my bearings with the cheapo China bearings and never had one fail yet. It should be a 6206 double sealed. If you get the PTO off just take a large socket and tap out the old bearing. I don't bother grinding down the dimples that hold the bearing in place. It will drive out pretty easy. I hold the PTO in one hand and hammer with the other so I don't damage it.
This should be your bearing. There is a spacer inside the inner race you will need to reuse. https://www.amazon.com/XiKe-6206-2RS...NsaWNrPXRydWU= With the old bearing removed, sand the inside clean and wipe down the inside where the bearing goes and also the new bearing with lacquer thinner. When you get the new bearing started in the PTO about 1/4" take some red Loctite and run a bead around the outside of the new bearing and drive it on home. The Loctite will keep it in place so I don't even try to re-dimple it. This post may help you. https://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/...ad.php?t=24413 Good luck and let us know how it goes. Edit****** That looks like an aftermarket clutch. Can you post a better pic?
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My plan is to pull that front bearing. I didn't see any dimples stopping me from pulling it out (forward) as installed?
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I guess my thinking here is the bearing is locked. I did toy with the idea of pulling of the seal/shield and greasing it, since it's accessible.
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Why Farm Half When You Can Farmall? 1282 | 44C Deck, Chains, 42" Blade, Cast Weights, 020" Over K301 * 1711 | 50C Deck, #1 Rear Rototiller w/ Extensions, Sleeve Hitch, KT17S Series II 24302 --> CH18S * 1811 | 46 GT Deck, 42" Blade, Chains, M18 Magnum, Sleeve Hitch * 1782 | 60" #375 Deck, Kubota D640 Diesel * 1862 | #450 Snowblower, M18 Magnum * 782 | Y/W KT17 Series II, Sleeve Hitch * 984 | Y/W Onan/Linamar 20HP, Sims Cab, CAT 0 3 PT w/ Rear PTO, 60" #374 Deck |
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I was hoping to soundboard you guys first, because I don't have another cub with a similar looking PTO at the shop. The 2182 seems to have a similar setup with the fat washer.
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A lot of PB and patience will get that off. Then replace the bearing. BTDT
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