Only Cub Cadets

PLEASE PATRONIZE OUR SPONSORS!

CC Specialties R. F. Houtz and Sons Jeff in Pa.

Cub Cadet Parts & Service


If you would like to help maintain this site & enhance it, feel free to donate whatever amount you would like to!




Attention Folks we have a new owner!
Greg Rozar AKA- CubDieselFan


Go Back   Only Cub Cadets > Cub Cadets > Implements and Attachments

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-07-2015, 11:14 AM
Cannon51's Avatar
Cannon51 Cannon51 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Georgia
Posts: 396
Default Loud GT48 317 Deck

The 317 deck on my 1641 is much loader than the one on the 1863. Nothing seems to be too tight, I can move the belt and turn the blades with two fingers but that may mean much on tapered bearings. With the belt off one of the outer spindles does not have any movement when I wiggle the blade up and down, one has a little more than you would want in a wheel bearing and the center has what I think is to much. I had the blades off a while back and did torque the blade nuts when I put it back together. I don't see any way to adjust the bearing, no shims or castle nut like on a car. I looked in the tech section hoping to find a thread on rebuilding these spindles but didn't find anything. Is my next move to take the spindles apart and replace the bearings and seals?
Cannon
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Cub 1641 002.jpg (26.6 KB, 369 views)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-07-2015, 11:32 AM
Sam Mac's Avatar
Sam Mac Sam Mac is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Galax VA
Posts: 18,753
Default

Probably wouldn't hurt to take it apart and see what's going on. At least you can clean the old grease out. Not much to them, just 2 tapered bearings with a split sleeve spacer between them. This is your typical bearing set up.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_3125.jpg (21.9 KB, 367 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_3126.jpg (21.9 KB, 368 views)
__________________
2264 with 54 GT deck
1641 AKA Black Jack with a 402-E Haban Sickle bar mower
JD317 dump truck
BX2670 with FEL
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-07-2015, 11:41 AM
ol'George's Avatar
ol'George ol'George is offline
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MI
Posts: 6,621
Default

A pitted/galled bearing will be noisy. a loose bearing will be loose but not very noisy.
From your description, I would be inclined to think the bearings are worn/pitted, causing the loose clearance.
Your planned inspection will tell you the condition.
If those are the new style tapered bearings ,try Rockauto.com
just go to parts search and type in the number
Or if you prefer, NAPA or Autozone if they are LM 11949/LM 11910 they are outer wheel bearings for 70's GM vehicles as well as others.
LUCK!
EDIT Sam types faster than me
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-07-2015, 01:03 PM
Sam Mac's Avatar
Sam Mac Sam Mac is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Galax VA
Posts: 18,753
Default

Just want to add one thing, when you put it back together make sure you install one of the seals upside down so that when you grease the bearings it will allow the old grease to be expelled.
__________________
2264 with 54 GT deck
1641 AKA Black Jack with a 402-E Haban Sickle bar mower
JD317 dump truck
BX2670 with FEL
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-07-2015, 02:12 PM
Mike McKown Mike McKown is offline
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,825
Default

Before you tear the deck down, spin the pulley on the tension idler on the deck and the belt pullies on the mule drive and make sure none of them make noise. They shouldn't make any noise.

They will really make a racket if they are dry on lube and they are sealed.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-07-2015, 02:42 PM
Sam Mac's Avatar
Sam Mac Sam Mac is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Galax VA
Posts: 18,753
Default

Good point Mike.
__________________
2264 with 54 GT deck
1641 AKA Black Jack with a 402-E Haban Sickle bar mower
JD317 dump truck
BX2670 with FEL
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-07-2015, 03:20 PM
Cannon51's Avatar
Cannon51 Cannon51 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Georgia
Posts: 396
Default

I thought to turn on the PTO with the deck off to see if it made noise but didn't think about the mule drive pulleys. I know they spin but not if they make noise. Probably won't do anything else till tomorrow, Just got back from mowing my mothers grass. Pretty rough caught between taking care of elderly parents and grown kids.
Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-07-2015, 05:33 PM
J-Mech J-Mech is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Oblong, Illinois
Posts: 17,594
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon51 View Post
Pretty rough caught between taking care of elderly parents and grown kids.
Taking care of your mother is honorable, and what you should do.

"Taking care" of your grown kids............ My parents quit taking care of me when I moved out. Now it's my responsibility. Someday, I'll take care of them.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-07-2015, 07:52 PM
Tankman's Avatar
Tankman Tankman is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: PA
Posts: 345
Default

Haven't used my 48" deck yet. This winter we did all we could; paint, blast, belts, blades. The whole shebang.

Did run the deck many times. Not on grass. Sounds great, I know it'll do the job.

Can I make a butt out of myself when I think the deck sounds like a jet engine?
__________________
Tankman
'95 CCC 1641
Eastern PA

USMC
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-07-2015, 07:56 PM
ol'George's Avatar
ol'George ol'George is offline
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MI
Posts: 6,621
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by J-Mech View Post
Taking care of your mother is honorable, and what you should do.

"Taking care" of your grown kids............ My parents quit taking care of me when I moved out. Now it's my responsibility. Someday, I'll take care of them.
So true, but my kids keep telling me they are going to be the ones that pick my nursing home
Ha,<LOL
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

Cub Cadet is a premium line of outdoor power equipment, established in 1961 as part of International Harvester. During the 1960s, IH initiated an entirely new line of lawn and garden equipment aimed at the owners rural homes with large yards and private gardens. There were a wide variety of Cub Cadet branded and after-market attachments available; including mowers, blades, snow blowers, front loaders, plows, carts, etc. Cub Cadet advertising at that time harped on their thorough testing by "boys - acknowledged by many as the world's worst destructive force!". Cub Cadets became known for their dependability and rugged construction.

MTD Products, Inc. of Cleveland, Ohio purchased the Cub Cadet brand from International Harvester in 1981. Cub Cadet was held as a wholly owned subsidiary for many years following this acquisition, which allowed them to operate independently. Recently, MTD has taken a more aggressive role and integrated Cub Cadet into its other lines of power equipment.

This website and forum are not affiliated with or sponsored by MTD Products Inc, which owns the CUB CADET trademarks. It is not an official MTD Products Inc, website, and MTD Products Inc, is not responsible for any of its content. The official MTD Products Inc, website can be found at: http://www.mtdproducts.com. The information and opinions expressed on this website are the responsibility of the website's owner and/or it's members, and do not represent the opinions of MTD Products Inc. IH, INTERNATIONAL HARVESTER are registered trademark of CNH America LLC

All material, images, and graphics from this site are the property of www.onlycubcadets.net. Any unauthorized use, reproductions, or duplications are prohibited unless solely expressed in writing.

Cub Cadet, Cub, Cadet, IH, MTD, Parts, Tractors, Tractor, International Harvester, Lawn, Garden, Lawn Mower, Kohler, garden tractor equipment, lawn garden tractors, antique garden tractors, garden tractor, PTO, parts, online, Original, 70, 71, 72, 73, 76, SO76, 80, 81, 86, 100, 102, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108,109, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 147, 149, 169, 182, 282, 382, 482, 580, 582, 582 Special, 680, 682, 782, 782D, 784, 800, 805, 882, 982, 984, 986, 1000, 1015, 1100, 1105, 1110, 1200, 1250, 1282, 1450, 1512, 1604, 1605, 1606, 1610, 1615, 1620, 1650, 1710, 1711, 1712, 1806, 1810, 1811, 1812, 1912, 1914.