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[dbuck]

Originally Posted by dvogtvpe

engine guys don't talk in mils, they use mm or decimal . while it is used in other industries I've never seen an engine manual use the term 1 mil referring to .001 . cause's to much confusion

Thank you for clarifying that. I should have paid more attention to his post, as I assumed he was talking MM.

[sawdustdad]

Originally Posted by dvogtvpe

engine guys don't talk in mils, they use mm or decimal . while it is used in other industries I've never seen an engine manual use the term 1 mil referring to .001 . cause's to much confusion

I guess I'm not an engine guy. But I am an engine er.

On a more topical note, I received the camshaft spacers, installed the 5 mil (OK, OK, .005 inch) shim and drove the camshaft pin home. installed the crankshaft, and shimmed the bearing plate.Took three attempts to get the crankshaft clearance right. Had to use all three shims with the gasket kit plus two more thin ones from another kit to get .010 clearance. Got the piston, rod and oil pan all installed. On to valves and springs next.

[J-Mech]

Hope you remembered the governor!

[sawdustdad]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

Hope you remembered the governor!

Yeah, that went in before the camshaft. I followed the service manual procedures pretty much to the letter, including the sequence of assembly.

I do need to get some better tools for seating the oil seals and bearings. A wooden block and a hammer works, but it's not so elegant. The oil seals go in with a flat punch and many tiny taps all around and a depth gauge to make sure they are square in the bore. Thinking about turning a sleeve from some plastic or maybe finding a suitable piece of PVC pipe. What do you use?

[finsruskw]

A socket from my big 1" drive set.

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by sawdustdad

Thinking about turning a sleeve from some plastic or maybe finding a suitable piece of PVC pipe. What do you use?

Originally Posted by finsruskw

A socket from my big 1" drive set.

I have made and used PVC pipe, but usually a socket, like finsruskw said.
If installing on a flat surface (no shaft sticking out) I have a seal driver set. But honestly, I usually just grab a socket.

[sawdustdad]

I have used sockets for driving seals like the rear axles, but the engine crankshaft seals would require a very deep socket with enough clearance for the crankshaft. Those are the seals that challenge me.

[sawdustdad]

Went to install the valves. Couldn't remember the very safe and secure place I carefully chose to store the keepers that came out of the engine when I disassembled it. Every single other part is stored carefully on a three shelf roll around cart. But the keepers are in a safer place. I know I'm not the only one to make this mistake. Ordered some replacements off ebay. (partstree.com says NLA? What's up with that?)

Shifted my attention to the flywheel, cam cover, points, etc. I'll continue to assemble what I can while I wait for (or find!) the valve spring keepers.

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by sawdustdad

I have used sockets for driving seals like the rear axles, but the engine crankshaft seals would require a very deep socket with enough clearance for the crankshaft. Those are the seals that challenge me.

I won't tell you how I put the seals in..... Not recommended way. Anywho, time to use that lathe! Yeah, get a piece of PVC pipe, or if you really want to make a good tool, get Nylatron, or similar machinable plastic from McMaster Carr. I checked their book, they carry it. They have a hundred different kinds of plastic, but they had a decent machinable (ABS? or maybe Nylon IDR) for about $9 a foot. Better stuff got up around $25/ft. That is for the 2" diameter stuff. If you can't find it and want to, let me know I can post/send you a link.

Don't feel bad about losing your valve keepers....... I've done that a couple times. Difference is, I usually have another set.

NOTE: I have never checked to make sure that the new valves and such use the same keepers. In the motor world, not all valve keepers are made the same. Even if they look similar, they may vary slightly. Not saying this because of any other reason than just an FYI. If you have another motor that is junk and you want to use the keepers, just do a quick assemble out of the motor and make sure they hold. As another note, I always replace keepers. They're cheap, and I've seen them come apart because they are wore and it's hard to tell by looking.

[sawdustdad]

Jonathan, where do you get new keepers?

I ordered some used ones out of a k321, so hopefully, they will fit. I'll check them out when I get them.