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Old 02-16-2014, 10:19 PM
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You tried to start a motor without seeing if it had oil in it? I didn't realize getting one to run was required to tear it down.....

If the pan had sludge in it better plan on more than just a gasket kit.......
you read my mind Jonathan! good question..
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It had oil in it, dipstick was just a tad under the full line. The sludge was at the bottom of the pan, once I cleared it out the oil flowed right out but I'm still going to open it up and clean it up.

Only reason I want to open it up is to remove the balance gears before they do it themselves...this block is HARD to find.
That was kinda the point..... you took a rare engine, tried to start it without putting fresh oil in it? Really? Pretty risky, and oil is cheap.

Had a guy drop a motor off at my shop once. Said he had been trying to start it and it wouldn't run. After he left, I pulled the dipstick, it showed oil, and a little over full. When we pulled the drain plug, nothing but water with about 2 qts of oil floating on the top. When the dipstick was pulled, the oil wiped off the water and showed nothing but oil. Pumped all that water through the engine and ruined the bearings. Point: Don't trust a dipstick on a motor that has been sitting.


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I didn't say you were stupid.
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Shaner,
Glad to hear the 169 fired. I agree with taking out the grenade gears. Keep us posted on the progress.
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That was kinda the point..... you took a rare engine, tried to start it without putting fresh oil in it? Really? Pretty risky, and oil is cheap.

Had a guy drop a motor off at my shop once. Said he had been trying to start it and it wouldn't run. After he left, I pulled the dipstick, it showed oil, and a little over full. When we pulled the drain plug, nothing but water with about 2 qts of oil floating on the top. When the dipstick was pulled, the oil wiped off the water and showed nothing but oil. Pumped all that water through the engine and ruined the bearings. Point: Don't trust a dipstick on a motor that has been sitting.




I didn't say you were stupid.

Under normal circumstances, I would have changed the oil, cleaned the carb and put new fuel lines on it before attempting to start, but all the talk about balance gears going through the blocks (especially on the 16hp) it made me a little nervous. I just wanted to quick see if it fired. Checked the oil, it was full so I fired it off carb cleaner. now that I know it "runs" I can remove the balance gears...then properly go through it. Plus that's the first engine I've seen sludgy oil in before.

Let me tell you tho...trying to get that muffler off without denting it or bending it was the most nerve wracking thing I've done while working on these things....
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Definitely take good care of that muffler Shaner! Sounds like you did good on it!
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