Small pin removal frustrations

[twoton]

That's some good advice there Iron man. I like the bolt trick to maintain alignment. I'm curious though about the hole size, I always drill mine a little undersized, I wonder what Jeff drills his new shafts to...

[ol'George]

Actually the holes are on size, it is the coiled or rolled pins that are oversize.
The coiled pins are stronger than rolled pins,and withstand shock better.
They also make coiled pins that are heavy duty, they have another roll/coil inside, and are even harder to drive in/out.
Much joy using them

[wagonmaster]

Originally Posted by ironman

Maybe some help (maybe not):
1. After the pieces are lined up, run a 1/4" drill bit through the hole just enough to clean out any crud or burrs.
2. Cut a 1/4" bolt at the head end, just long enough to go half way through the hole.
3. Inset the cut bolt into the hole opposite the side you will be driving from. Tape it in place so it wont fall out. This will keep the holes in the two pieces aligned while the pin goes in. The pin going in will push the bolt out.
4. Put a very light coat of anti seize grease on the pin. This will help the pin go in smoother and make it easier to get out next time.
5. Run a piece of lock wire through the pin and twist tight. This should prevent the pin from falling out on it's own and marooning you down in the lower 40.

Love this guide bolt idea ! Don't know why I didn't ever think of that before.

[twoton]

Originally Posted by ol'George

Actually the holes are on size, it is the coiled or rolled pins that are oversize.
The coiled pins are stronger than rolled pins,and withstand shock better.
They also make coiled pins that are heavy duty, they have another roll/coil inside, and are even harder to drive in/out.
Much joy using them

[ColoradoCadet]

That's what I love about this site - innovative ideas that have been tried, tested and proven!

[CubbyRI]

Thanks as always iron. Prob try that with spirols, but wondering why not regular split roll pins, too weak perhaps?

[ironman]

Originally Posted by ol'George

Actually the holes are on size, it is the coiled or rolled pins that are oversize.
The coiled pins are stronger than rolled pins,and withstand shock better.
They also make coiled pins that are heavy duty, they have another roll/coil inside, and are even harder to drive in/out.
Much joy using them

Originally Posted by CubbyRI

Thanks as always iron. Prob try that with spirols, but wondering why not regular split roll pins, too weak perhaps?

ol' George already 'splained it Lucy.

[CubbyRI]

Well that brings up another question am I supposed to use the regular or these heavy-duty spirol?

The ones that came out were coiled all the way to the center if that says anything...

Originally Posted by ol'George

Actually the holes are on size, it is the coiled or rolled pins that are oversize.
The coiled pins are stronger than rolled pins,and withstand shock better.
They also make coiled pins that are heavy duty, they have another roll/coil inside, and are even harder to drive in/out.
Much joy using them

[farmall fred]

Originally Posted by CubbyRI

Well that brings up another question am I supposed to use the regular or these heavy-duty spirol?

The ones that came out were coiled all the way to the center if that says anything...

Not to be a smart a$$ but you answered your own question. You want to use the heavy duty spirol's. The others will work but if you want them to last just go with the better one's. Unless you want too go through this drill again. Like they say you can pay me now or pay me more later.
Good luck.

[CubbyRI]

Thanks. I could have googled for pics to try and match them up but i was working with my cell phone at the Dr office so that's why I just asked. I'm home now and will learn about spirol types. I honestly had no idea until it was mentioned here that they might be heavy duty I was assuming they were just "spirol" and was even thinking to just use a roll pin. but that spirol installation advice was great and I can try that.

Lot to do before this goes back together for example I am going to try and make new clutch disks on the lathe. I have some 5" round material left over from another job, and it will be cool to make them if I can...

Originally Posted by farmall fred

Not to be a smart a$$ but you answered your own question. You want to use the heavy duty spirol's. The others will work but if you want them to last just go with the better one's. Unless you want too go through this drill again. Like they say you can pay me now or pay me more later.
Good luck.