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Old 01-20-2014, 03:43 PM
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personally I would say filter but that is just me
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/300886411597?lpid=82 This is the filter I have. My po took a piece of copper pipe and has a 90' with a compression coupling connecting to the pick up tube. Could I crack that coupling loose and see if fluid is coming out of there, and if it is where else could it be clogged? If it did I would have fluid from the trans making it through there and all the way to the filter because when I pulled that it was full as well. It couldn't be the filter because I tried the original filter and the new one with the same problems.
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I would just take the pipe completely off and check it. Like I said put a pan under there and catch the hydro fluid. You need to start at the source and work forward. We know there is oil in the resevoir now you have to make sure there is a clear passage for the oil to get pulled to the pump. Either it is plugged at the axle housing or the tube is clogged. Correct filter also.
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The filter I have is part number 923 3014 is this the correct filter?
Yes that is the correct filter. I agree with Kelly (cubs-n-boxers), if it was working before, and everything is "spinning", then it probably isn't picking up oil. Either tube is plugged, or filter is.
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This might be the issue.

The NF Cub Hydros, had this "Suction Tube" for the oil return. From what I ever gather about this, the IH engineers thought this extra tubing would "cool" the oil down before it returned to the Charge Pump.



The engineer's changed the design to a simple "L" shaped configuration start with the 1x8/9 series hydros. It was a two piece design. When the Quietline Series came out, they came up with a one piece suction tube as seen like this.



I am wondering if something isn't in this suction tube, and that fact that the oil has to take the "scenic route" isn't causing your problems. As a suggestion, you may want to upgrade this suction tube (which is still available) to offer better oil return.
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Are you SURE the pin isn't sheared in the coupling and it is just turning the hydro a bit, some of the time?
It would not be the first time that happened!!!!!!!!!
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The input shaft is spinning and the lever is in the drive position.
He said he checked on post #7

Maybe we should rephrase the question. Is the Hydro unit output shaft spinning the same RPM as the input shaft...???
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This might be the issue.

The NF Cub Hydros, had this "Suction Tube" for the oil return. From what I ever gather about this, the IH engineers thought this extra tubing would "cool" the oil down before it returned to the Charge Pump.



The engineer's changed the design to a simple "L" shaped configuration start with the 1x8/9 series hydros. It was a two piece design. When the Quietline Series came out, they came up with a one piece suction tube as seen like this.



I am wondering if something isn't in this suction tube, and that fact that the oil has to take the "scenic route" isn't causing your problems. As a suggestion, you may want to upgrade this suction tube (which is still available) to offer better oil return.
The tube is not a return, it's a suction line, it feeds the oil to the filter. The early style has been known to become air bound. Just my 2 cents but I would loosen the filter, remove the plug on the rear cover and then blow some low pressure air into the case through the fill hole to hopefully prime the tube. You have to go easy doing this or you could hurt the seals in the rear end and pump. I'd use one of those vacuum cleaners that you can use as a blower. As soon as you get oil up to the filter tighten the filter and stop pushing air into the trans. I recall ksmith having a problem getting one of his tractors with that style tube to prime a couple years ago.
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The tube is not a return, it's a suction line,
In the HVAC/R world.....it is the SAME THING...
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