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Old 04-27-2025, 03:58 PM
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Okay,

While I was away I decided to try and rule out the RMC module by unplugging it and probing the PTO plug yellow/red wire under the same conditions you laid out for me earlier. The probe read 0.3 ohms which I believe would let the RMC off the hook.

I just removed the seat switch harness and tested the yellow/red wire in the PTO end harness and it read 0.L ohms with the brake on, switch in run position and seat/pto switch disconnected.

BTW I ordered the Seat Switch and a connector made for MTD but it looks like what I've got, should be here in a couple of days. with that!
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Old 04-27-2025, 07:57 PM
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OK, now that our troubleshooting looks to have isolated the problem the situation leads to this....
As I said up up above, the seat switch connector has a built in foolproof system that is not totally foolproof.
I could have presented this in the beginning but I wanted to make sure everything else was eliminated.
Watch these videos and you will understand the big picture.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxUc5O7MPkA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB7E9RErCDg&t=6s
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Old 04-27-2025, 08:45 PM
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OK, now that our troubleshooting looks to have isolated the problem the situation leads to this....
As I said up up above, the seat switch connector has a built in foolproof system that is not totally foolproof.
I could have presented this in the beginning but I wanted to make sure everything else was eliminated.
Watch these videos and you will understand the big picture.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxUc5O7MPkA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB7E9RErCDg&t=6s
Yeah, I kinda knew where this would lead if the seat switch was the culprit. Because the seat switch connector was already a problem in that the retainer clip was broken and a tight connection may be affected by vibration etc, I was already shopping around for a replacement. The owner of the mower wants to retain the safety functions. Feel free to weigh in here if you know of OEM parts that might help to achieve this.

Problem is, I can find the replacement connector/cable for MTD #725-05277, and it shows compatibility with other mowers; but none are shown compatible with Cub Cadet. It looks very similar to my connector. According to the sales reps, you must purchase the entire wiring harness. ($194) Well you and I know that's not about to happen. We're talking about a plug and 3 wires with crimp connectors. The actual seat switch connector is what will determine if it will meet the safety standards. We just need to find somebody who knows somebody.

Anyhow, that's for me to work out and once I get that done, I can put all the details in order (install battery, clean tie and secure wiring, and mount the blade deck. Then it's gonna be "burn some grass!!"

Assuming we have reached the end to this affair, I want to sincerely thank you, Ironman, and others on the side who have helped me get this Cub Cadet back on track. I'll post again when I finally feel all is done.

Thanks all, David
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To be clear....
The purpose of the shorting clip that they remove from connector plug in the video,
is to prevent people from operating the tractor with the connector plug UNPLUGGED.

If the clip is removed and plugged back onto the switch, and the switch is good, it will continue to provide safety functions just as it did before.
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Understood.
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Understood.
I went ahead and connected the seat switch wiring harness to the switch and, after installing the battery and mower deck, I took the tractor for a test drive. Everything seems to function properly except one safety issue was found.

While I'm cutting grass; I am able to continue cutting when the reverse pedal is depressed without having to use the Reverse Mow Control. Could be a result of removing the metal strip in the connector or I may have a secondary problem involving the RMC. I'm expecting the new switch/connector tomorrow so I will likely go ahead and replace them and see if that takes care of it. The mower owner doesn't seem to object to leaving things as they are.

My schedule is a little tight right now for the 1st couple of weeks of May so it may be after the middle of May before I get back to it.

Again thank you Ironman and others for weighing in on this problem. I have really learned so much about how to use the wiring diagrams and to follow circuits one by one until isolating the problem.

David
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