Rim Guard/ Beet Juice question - not recommended by local dealer

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by jaynjeep

Around here in South GA we get away running straight water.... but it never freezes here more than a few days a year.. never long enough to freeze a tire.

It's not always about the freeze. Water with air encourages rust if your running tubeless.

Originally Posted by Merk

I use an inner tube on any tire that is filled with fluid.

Ditto


You guys do understand that beet juice and CaCl2 are not used for the non-freeze factor, right? No, they won't freeze, but they weigh more than water. Water and washer fluid is around 7lbs per gallon, beet juice/rim guard is about 9lbs and CaCl2 is almost 12lbs/gal. So, with a 6 gallon average per tire, water/washer fluid will give you 42lbs, whereas CaCl2 will give you 72lbs. Believe me, it makes a difference.

[Sam Mac]

I have loaded lugs with 110LB wheel weights on my BX, they don't hurt the lawn at all and stay on year round.

[OldSkull]

How about filling them with whisky Sam? This stuff doesn't freeze and you can have a drink if it became too cold outside.

Never mind, must be a Christmas brain fart!

[darkminion_17]

Use talcum powder Sam, then when you get IBS in the summer, you can take off the cap and let a little loose on your touche....

[Sam Mac]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

It's not always about the freeze. Water with air encourages rust if your running tubeless.




Ditto


You guys do understand that beet juice and CaCl2 are not used for the non-freeze factor, right? No, they won't freeze, but they weigh more than water. Water and washer fluid is around 7lbs per gallon, beet juice/rim guard is about 9lbs and CaCl2 is almost 12lbs/gal. So, with a 6 gallon average per tire, water/washer fluid will give you 42lbs, whereas CaCl2 will give you 72lbs. Believe me, it makes a difference.

Jon

At 12 lbs. per gal your close to the supersaturation point. I doubt that many places sell CaCl2 at that level of saturation. I'd bet more like 10-11 lbs. but it's still heavier than other options.
http://www.osi-univers.org/IMG/pdf/C...Handbook-2.pdf

[Sam Mac]

Originally Posted by darkminion_17

Use talcum powder Sam, then when you get IBS in the summer, you can take off the cap and let a little loose on your touche....

I just jump in the pool when I get that hot and sticky.

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by Sam Mac

Jon

At 12 lbs. per gal your close to the supersaturation point. I doubt that many places sell CaCl2 at that level of saturation. I'd bet more like 10-11 lbs. but it's still heavier than other options.
http://www.osi-univers.org/IMG/pdf/C...Handbook-2.pdf

Oh, I'm sure that is correct. I pulled a quick number off Google. I couldn't remember the exact number. 11 is what I thought it was before the search, but I saw like 11.8. That number musta been high.

[EricWww]

Fascinating discussion. According to http://www.rimguard.biz/frequently-asked-questions/ Rim Guard is 10.7-11 lbs per gallon.

I think I will stick with the Rim Guard opposed to the other methods. There is one area on my yard I get some tire spinnage so I'm sure this will help with mowing too! I'm not super worried about the cost for a relatively small quantity - I'm remodeling my basement and the floor adhesive remover I'm using is almost $30 a gallon. I'll likely have the second dealer put it in- not sure if they would just sell the fluid for me to put in myself and everyone's closed til Tuesday. I have a bead breaker and plan on changing the valve stems to metal anyway.

My last 2 questions on this topic:
1) Just double checking but on a RWD tractor it would make no sense in putting in weight for the front tires right?

2) The turf tires are probably the original Goodyears that came on the tractor from the late 70s. They hold air and don't show signs of dry rotting. Any consideration for putting in Rim Guard into such an old tire?

Happy New Year everyone!

[J-Mech]

Like stated, Merk and I prefer not to put fluid in tubless. Small leaks, bead leaks... it prevents that. That said, tires that hold air will hold fluid. Tubeless with fluid is perfectly fine. If your tires leak air, they'll leak fluid.

No reason to add fluid to the steer tires.

[Merk]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

Like stated, Merk and I prefer not to put fluid in tubless. Small leaks, bead leaks... it prevents that. That said, tires that hold air will hold fluid. Tubeless with fluid is perfectly fine. If your tires leak air, they'll leak fluid.

No reason to add fluid to the steer tires.

I put tubes in all my tires. Too easy to hit a chuck hole and pop the bead. Tube tires won't pop the bead.

We had this discussion in the past......