No more PointSaver

[Merk]

Originally Posted by j4c11

Sure there is, it eliminates the condenser and reduces amperage at the points. Whether it impacts you personally is debatable, but if implemented over a million tractors to increase reliability by say 10% at little no cost over a condenser, that's an engineer's wet dream.

I doubt you are getting 10% more reliability in any of your million tractors your talking about. Good grounds, fuel, battery, grounds, wire harness and someone who knows how to set points are the keys to making your million tractors more reliable.

[jimbob200521]

Originally Posted by Merk

I doubt you are getting 10% more reliability in any of your million tractors your talking about. Good grounds, fuel, battery, grounds, wire harness and someone who knows how to set points are the keys to making your million tractors more reliable.

Whether we like it or not, whether it's .5% or 75% improvement, there is improvement. Sure, 95% of us Cubbers won't notice or need the difference but that doesn't make the difference nonexistent. Nobody said it would be day and night different or even really noticeably different, just that there is a difference. Replacing a condenser and with a solid state transistor system taking the load off the points is a thing and is an improvement, however insignificant or relevant. Please don't take this as an argument, a downing, or as any disrespect, I don't mean it as that. Just that given the choice, I would probably take a pointsaver style system over a traditional system from the factory.

[Yosemite Sam]

This is like Deja vous all over again, I believe we got into this a few weeks ago. And a year before that and a year before that...

This is nearly as bad as the hydro/gear drive debate. There is no resolve to this topic, some people love them, and others don't know the point of them (no pun) and many of us simply don't see a need for them.

Depending on your method of timing an engine, I can see how the little light could help.

[Merk]

Originally Posted by Yosemite Sam

This is like Deja vous all over again, I believe we got into this a few weeks ago. And a year before that and a year before that...

This is nearly as bad as the hydro/gear drive debate. There is no resolve to this topic, some people love them, and others don't know the point of them (no pun) and many of us simply don't see a need for them.

Depending on your method of timing an engine, I can see how the little light could help.

Sam,
Gear drive Cubs are the only way to go. (sorry Sam-had to do that)


I have to agree about the debate issues. The electronic stuff can be nice when it works right. As I said in a earlier post: Good grounds, fuel, battery, grounds, wire harness and someone who knows how to set points are the keys to making your Cub Cadet run right.

Your choice on what you want to use...I will stick with the old tried and true stuff.

[olds45512]

Originally Posted by Yosemite Sam

This is nearly as bad as the hydro/gear drive debate.

what debate? if hydro's are so good why don't guys build them into pullers?

[j4c11]

I'd take it a step further and hook up the points to an Arduino controller. Then you can measure RPM and control ignition from there, and also do fancy stuff like adjust timing dynamically based on RPM. Maybe take some other measurements like voltage at the rectifier while you're at it and implement some diagnostics. Sounds like a good winter project

[Yosemite Sam]

Originally Posted by Merk

Sam,
Gear drive Cubs are the only way to go. (sorry Sam-had to do that)


I have to agree about the debate issues. The electronic stuff can be nice when it works right. As I said in a earlier post: Good grounds, fuel, battery, grounds, wire harness and someone who knows how to set points are the keys to making your Cub Cadet run right.

Your choice on what you want to use...I will stick with the old tried and true stuff.

Originally Posted by olds45512

what debate? if hydro's are so good why don't guys build them into pullers?

You guys actually made me laugh a little!

Although Merk and I don't agree on exactly how to adjust the timing, I do agree with the bold type above, and I do respect his opinion.

I also believe that hydros and gear drives both have a place in the real world, hydros for some things gear drives for others. If I could only own one Cub Cadet... I don't know that I could choose.

Although it is kinda hard to put a hydraulic lift on a gear drive for $150.00.

[twoton]

Originally Posted by Yosemite Sam

..... I can see how the little light could help.

So a few weeks back I went out to fire up my 1200 for some fun and, no go. It sounded like it was going to start right off but then nothing, just cranked. So, opened the hood so I could see my pointsaver and watched to see if I had a flashing red led. It was there, but not a crisp clean on and off flashing but kind of a dull blurrr… First thing I did was remove my points cover, clean the contacts and voila! Nice crisp clean bright flashing led and the engine fired right up.

So, my question is,… could you just get a small led light, maybe like this;

http://www.wiringproducts.com/red-le...tor-light.html

or like this;

https://www.techtoolsupply.com/12VDC...-12vled-bl.htm


and wire it in with the points, mount it somewhere out of the way and have a handy indicator light?

[nikster]

Had one on my # 122, it seemed to run better? Or maybe I was brainwashed?

A friend of mine had 2 cubs & swore by them, that's how I learned about them.

I've got a extra one sitting in my cabinet that I was planning on putting it on my # 109, but now thinking of selling it.

Nik,

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by twoton

So, my question is,… could you just get a small led light, maybe like this;

http://www.wiringproducts.com/red-le...tor-light.html

and wire it in with the points, mount it somewhere out of the way and have a handy indicator light?

No.

If it was that easy, wouldn't people be doing it already?