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Old 09-09-2014, 01:56 AM
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The shaft it's on in the pic, is some cheapo stuff from the farm supply store...probably 1018 or similar...I couldn't see going to all the trouble to source an OEM shaft when it's so insultingly easy to make one...
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Old 09-09-2014, 01:56 AM
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It's 1AM here. And yes, I'm at the shop. Obviously, I'm in the office on the PC, and not turning wrenches, LOL! I'm usually here till between 1 and 3 am. On rare occasion, all night. I've spent days on end here in years past when we were bigger and had demands. Getting too old for that crap anymore. Most I've ever worked straight is around 36 hours (more than once). I used to work 24 straight all the time. I don't need much sleep.
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Old 09-09-2014, 02:00 AM
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The shaft it's on in the pic, is some cheapo stuff from the farm supply store...probably 1018 or similar...I couldn't see going to all the trouble to source an OEM shaft when it's so insultingly easy to make one...
Agreed. I'd use cold rolled though. Probably NBD to just use what's there. Easy for me to say, I probably have a piece laying around!
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Old 09-09-2014, 02:02 AM
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I COULD counterbore the casting for needle bearings...that's a 5/8 shaft; I *think* some Harley cam journals are nominal 5/8...
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Old 09-09-2014, 02:07 AM
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I COULD counterbore the casting for needle bearings...that's a 5/8 shaft; I *think* some Harley cam journals are nominal 5/8...
Nothing to gain.

Even the big tractors usually just use a brass sleeve/bushing on the 3pt rockshaft.

Are you saying Harley uses needle bearings on the cam? (That doesn't sound right) That's one motor I've never worked on. Lots of Honda's. No Harleys.

You do know you can buy caged needle bearings by size anyway right? You'd just bore the casting and drive them in.
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Old 09-09-2014, 02:38 AM
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OT: Yep, they do. Needle bearings on the inboard end almost always, and depending on model year, either a bronze bushing, or a ball bearing on the outboard end. Until '09 anyway. There's been a lot of controversy over the years about whether the 'new' INA cam bearings with half as many rollers are better or worse than the old Torrington ones. The cranks are all roller bearing after about 1955; ball before that.
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Old 09-09-2014, 02:41 AM
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I actually likely will do nothing but grease it and assemble it...the chatter about roller bearings is just my PTSD-driven-insomnia and boredom having a teleconference.
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Sorry, didn't mean to de-rail the thread. We kinda bounced around tonight......
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Old 09-09-2014, 12:50 PM
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Why bother with a grease fitting. It's just a 1/2" rod that holds the upper lift arm in place. The hole in the lift arm is bigger than that by at least 3/16". Too much off a gap to justify greasing. It'll never seize up. When I installed my 3 point lift, I put a light coat of oil on the 1/2" rod and slid it in. My lift arm also has the hole. If it needed a zerk, IH would have put one there. I think by greasing it, with amount of gap that is inside the lift arm hole for the 1/2" pin, you'll just be attracting dirt. Lightly coat the pin with oil or leave it dry. I oiled mine just to ease my mind, but it doesn't even need that.
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Old 09-09-2014, 12:57 PM
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As far as the hole in the lift arm, it could have been from casting and holding the piece while the other holes got drilled? I'm not sure, but either way, it doesn't need grease.....or a coat of oil like I did.
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