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Old 11-27-2013, 09:30 AM
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Any chance you have the hoses swapped? I think the filter has a check valve in it and if the hoses are installed incorrectly that would block the flow of oil.
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Any chance you have the hoses swapped? I think the filter has a check valve in it and if the hoses are installed incorrectly that would block the flow of oil.
OHHHH..... You got me on that one Sam. Didn't even think of that. Believe that is absolutely correct!
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Hmm...where can I find which port on the engine goes to 'a' & 'b' on the filter adapter? Dad has an 1811 but I don't have access to it right now. If this is realistic I'd rather nail it back together & try it.

Still, the gunk at the bottom of the front cover is a concern. There's no way to get a look at the pickup for the pump is there? Is there any way to flush the engine out?
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where can I find which port on the engine goes to 'a' & 'b' on the filter adapter?
In a Kohler M-18 Service Manual as found in our Technical Library Section.

You might try taking compressed air from an air compressor and try to blow backwards on the oil suction tube.

IF that clears it up, and you get oil pressure back, you could try installing some ATF in the crankcase as a cleaning agent.
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Well you are in luck. Have the panels off my 1811, so I snapped a couple pics.

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I have done this many times, on many different motors, and transmissions.
No, there is no way to get to the screen. Pull the drain plug, go get a gallon of gas and a gallon of diesel fuel. Dump the gas down the motor first, that will wash it out. If it still looks nasty, repeat. Then dump the diesel and let it re-lube and flush the gas. Then, I'd dump at least a quart of cheap whatever oil down, and let that run out too. Then refill and start it. I'd also add sea foam to the oil. IF you have oil pressure, let it run for a couple hours use, then drain and refill with just oil. **CHANGE THE FILTER ALSO** That combo should clean out the gunk.

NOTE: For anyone changing oil. It is far better to drain oil out of a hot motor because the warm oil 1.) flows out better and more completely. 2.) has a better chance of pulling some of the "gunk" (if any) out with it because it flows out the plug faster.
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In a Kohler M-18 Service Manual as found in our Technical Library Section.

You might try taking compressed air from an air compressor and try to blow backwards on the oil suction tube.

IF that clears it up, and you get oil pressure back, you could try installing some ATF in the crankcase as a cleaning agent.
You hit send before I did, Roland.

This is also very good advice!!
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NOTE: For anyone changing oil. It is far better to drain oil out of a hot motor because the warm oil 1.) flows out better and more completely. 2.) has a better chance of pulling some of the "gunk" (if any) out with it because it flows out the plug faster.
Good point, I had always thought it better to do it cold because if it's warm, it's gotta flow out of all the passages in the engine and might not drain totally. Now that I think about it, I don't know where I would have gotten that from
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Always drain when hot. That way all the crud that settles to the bottom is in suspension and it comes out as you drain it. Same thing for the hydros. Run them and get everything nice and stirred up first then drain.
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In a filtered system you should use a detergent based oil as the particles are suspended in the oil to carry it to the filter and the filter traps the particles and lets the oil pass through.

In a non filtered system use a non detergent oil to let the particles to separate from the oil. This happens when the oil has time to settle in the bottom of the crankcase.

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In a filtered system you should use a detergent based oil as the particles are suspended in the oil to carry it to the filter and the filter traps the particles and lets the oil pass through.

In a non filtered system use a non detergent oil to let the particles to separate from the oil. This happens when the oil has time to settle in the bottom of the crankcase.

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Run it, to get it good and warmed up then drain it. Otherwise you will have crud in the bottom of the pan. End of story.
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