Cub Cadet 169

[cadzag72]

I'd be ok with a 16 hp 147! I know the flywheels are the same size, I just hope the bolt holes in the frame line up. I imagine a custom exhaust would be in the works, too, I don't think either the 169 or 1650 muffler would fit behind a 147 grill casting.

[drglinski]

IMHO big powered NF hydrostats are where its at.

[macman81]

just my .02 but for all my heavy duty work i always use my hydro cubs as the little bit of give in the speed controls allow the tires to stay hooked up where my gear drive will spin out instead. also easier to get the load moving for the same reason. in this scenario I'm referencing pulling around a running gear loaded with 600 gallons of water for irrigating my gardens. the gear drive will dig to china instead of slowly gaining the momentum needed to tow it.

i do enjoy gear drives also just not for heavy towing jobs.

[johncub7172]

Sounds like a great project! I don't mind seeing a gear drive, 16hp. Kohler in a 1x8/9 series wide frame IH Cub Cadet. Man, that sounds radical!

[sawdustdad]

The 147 frame has a bump out for the 14hp kohler engine, I'm not sure a 16hp will fit. (are they the same size?). I put a 14hp in a 108, for a "148." It's sweet.

[Merk]

Originally Posted by johncub7172

I've been around the forum since yesterday, and I'm sure the 16 block was derived from the 14 block. Not from the 301 as some one had claimed. ie: my 241 block is a stamped 301 block. The big difference between the two are the bore and stroke, and I believe that to be the same between the 14 and 16. All the yap about what IH wanted Kohler to do is confusing. Feel free to educate us.

The 16 horsepower block may look the same as a 14 horsepower block. That is were it ends. 16 horsepower engines have 1 more head bolt than the 10-12-14 horsepower engines. The 16 horsepower blocks should have a bigger diameter around the outside part cylinder bore-cooling fin area because of the bigger cylinder bore.

The flywheel-flywheel shroud is the same on a 16-14 and some 12 horsepower engines. A IH Cub Cadet 147 has an area design to run the bigger flywheel. A 16 horsepower engine should bolt right in.

Any narrow frame can be modified to run a bigger flywheel Kohler.

by macman81
just my .02 but for all my heavy duty work i always use my hydro cubs as the little bit of give in the speed controls allow the tires to stay hooked up where my gear drive will spin out instead. also easier to get the load moving for the same reason. in this scenario I'm referencing pulling around a running gear loaded with 600 gallons of water for irrigating my gardens. the gear drive will dig to china instead of slowly gaining the momentum needed to tow it.

i do enjoy gear drives also just not for heavy towing jobs.

It is easier for me to keep a manual trans IH Cub Cadet hook for pulling heavy loads than a hydro. I learn a long time ago how to ease the clutch so it don't spin tires. I'm not a big fan of moving the direction lever to keep a constant speed.

I have a feeling some of the reasons IH didn't install any engine bigger than a 12 horsepower is do to clutch slippage. One of the fixes is a heavier spring in the clutch. The biggest drawback is the clutch pedal is harder to push. That may keep Mon or kids unable to drive them. By 1970 the demand for higher horsepower and hydroststic tranmission was big selling point on any garden tractor. John Q. Public was getting to use to automatic trans in their cars and trucks. The hydro trans lawn mower was next.

[Yosemite Sam]

Have we ever decided what this thing is, and where are the pictures???