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Old 08-07-2013, 11:37 PM
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My 149 has a PTO safety switch , right where he says his is.

How do i know ??? My 149 wouldn't start and i traced to the PTO safety switch.

I wish i could get you a pic , it is buried anyhow , so it probably wouldn't show up.
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Old 08-07-2013, 11:46 PM
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Page 20 in the service manual shows a PTO Safety Starting Switch in the wiring diagram. Looked up the manual on this site , to lazy to walk out to the garage.
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Old 08-07-2013, 11:52 PM
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Ok.... my bad. I see it now in the diagram, and in the parts book I missed it cause it is labeled "neutral safety". I was looking for PTO.........

BUT, again, that is a SYMPTOM, not the problem. Start at the BATTERY and go from there. If it has 6V on BOTH sides.... THAT IS NOT WHERE THE PROBLEM IS! See R Bedell's post #9.

The PTO safety switch is only on the START circuit. It wouldn't cause it to die suddenly.
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:00 AM
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No. There isn't one. How about a pic.
Yes there is. And when depressed there should be 12 volts on each side with the key in the start position.

If memory serves, the orange/orange & black wire ultimately goes from the "S" on the Ign. switch to the small terminal on the solenoid.
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:06 AM
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Sorry, didn't notice the third page...
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Old 08-08-2013, 06:36 AM
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OK....it comes down to terminology and now I can see the confusion. The 149 does not have the traditional PTO switch. It does have a "PTO starting safety switch".

I agree, this safety switch would have NOTHING to do with the tractor suddenly going dead.
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OK, no biggie, I won't have to reduce the resolution for pictures. Sorry for the delay, slept in a little (so nice). First thing, gonna check for spark, will report back later.
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How do you plan to check for spark if the motor won't crank?
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Old 08-08-2013, 11:52 AM
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good point. So back to the tests. I still have the ignition switch out, and when I test the molex connector for the ignition switch i get 4+ volts on the "ignition" and "starter" plugs, and 12+ volts on the "bat". I already mentioned 6+ volts on the PTO safety switch. I'm not sure these if these voltage drops would cause a running engine to quit or not. Any thoughts?
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:50 PM
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I just cleaned up the ignition sw connectors and sprayed some deoxit in the female molex plug, turned the key and now get machine-gun clicking which, I believe, indicates a bad solenoid. Am I correct?
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