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03-09-2011, 03:26 PM
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Thanks for the great info., guys. Yes, I like the idea of having one of each, maybe someday.
Most likely, I won't end up getting a tiller. My garden is small, and I have an old, but decent TroyBilt rear tine unit. I would be using the tractor for mowing a small yard, and maybe pushing a little snow with a blade, about 2 parking spaces on a city street. I currently use a push mower and a snow shovel, but due to some back problems I'm considering a tractor so that I won't have to pay someone to cut my grass next year if I have back surgery. Hypothetically, would a 12 HP manual shift tractor push average amounts of snow in first gear, not creeper gear, just regular first? Josh P 
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03-09-2011, 03:44 PM
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03-09-2011, 03:44 PM
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Oh yeah,a 12HP manual will do that quite well,even 2nd it should push just fine.
 the biggest issue will be traction,you will need some weights and chains,or at the very least ags,but chains are best if you have any ice.
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03-09-2011, 06:15 PM
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I had my blade on my 8 horse and it pushed snow just fine in 3rd gear but I have a long driveway. When your used to plowing with an atv like I am, 3rd gear seems too slow some times lol.
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03-09-2011, 06:39 PM
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03-09-2011, 06:49 PM
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It depends on what you are used to.
I've been pushing a clutch pedal for almost 47 years...(Yes, I'm getting old). I rather drive a manual trans Cub over a hydro Cub. I will get a more level surface when I'm tilling with a manual trans Cub. I will throttle down (1/3 to 1/2 throttle) some if needed when I go around an object. I use 2nd gear when I push snow with a manual trans Cub. This year I had my 149 doing blade duties. I can move snow faster with a hydro....still like a manual trans Cub better.
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03-10-2011, 01:23 PM
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hydros / stick
I my limited experence, mowing high grass with a hydro is best. you can leave the blades spinning full speed,while varing ground speed with hydro!
I plow with 12" mold board, 12hp 124 stick in 2nd, 3/4 throttle that way can let govenor work a little, when load shifts up ! but only my opinion. I have 10 hydros, only 5 sticks. the more fun is they all have own way of doing the job! Thanks Daduke of
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03-10-2011, 03:22 PM
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I'm with Merk on being used to the clutch for decades. It's what I had used on about every tractor my Dad had when I was a kid, and I'm really just more comfortable with picking a gear and using the throttle if I need to slow down a little.
My yard is such that I think I can pretty much mow in a continuous circle in 2nd gear, without having to back up for lots of obstacles. The only attachment I expect to use at this point is a snow blade, and from what I'm hearing from you guys, with proper tires/chains, I think a manual shift 10 or 12 HP will be more than sufficient. One of the only hydros I used as a kid was my neighbor's Bolens, which had a foot pedal. It seemed impossible to hold steady pressure on the foot pedal when hitting any sort of irregular terrain, and the tractor would constantly be lurching when going over bumps. Not sure if that's still in use, but we all seemed to dislike that setup at the time. Josh
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Let's just make it easy for him.. Buy one of each! Once you buy one, you get bit by the yellow fever anyway. I have a 128 gear drive and I have a 782 hydro. Love them both for what each does best. 
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