Hydrogen Generator for Cub Cadet

[clint]

Originally Posted by jcrews

Yeah, telling someone to leave, after they were asking question, then mocking them and them calling them an idiot.....
I was wrong, Clint you're the nicest person in the world

jscrews

I was not telling you to leave.... I was just suggestion you do a search (google) and if the search turned up one of those sites trying to sell a hydrogen generator to go on to the next site, meaning if they are trying to sell one they will say anything to get your money, and as you said you are trying to make one, not buy one.

I was not mocking you either, merely trying to give you some information before you started. People put so much bull crap (not you, sellers of these kits) out trying to to get your money, it's almost comparable to those emails trying to get you to cash a check for them.. I was only in good heart trying to steer you in the right direction.

I also was not calling you an idiot, I'm one for ignorance as a term for not knowing, as I'm very ignorant to many things cub.. I'm new to them IH Cub Cadets, however I want to learn just as your wanting to learn about the hydrogen generator... so no harm no foul here... a post is at times hard to comprehend.

If I can be of any help to you I would be more than happy, I have some to much experience in metal work, aluminum anodizing, electrical charges conducted between anode/cathode in solution.

[jcrews]

Thanks to all who contributed constructive advice about this subject to help me understand and decide NOT to try it.

[wvjon]

One more thing to consider, hydrogen burns much, much hotter than gasoline. I would think twice about burning hydrogen in an air cooled engine.

[Eagle Keeper]

If I remember way back,,,, How do you pass electricity through [pure distilled water ] ? It doesn't conduct electricity. While we are on an off topic discussion and there are a few people with technical backgrounds ,,,let me run this past you. I have a few ideas for saving energy. First is wind power. The big disadvantage to wind power is battery banks and inverters. How about this. A small wind mill driving a 40 amp alternator. The current flows directly to a hot water tank incorporating 115 v heating elements [ There is such a thing]. Right away the system could care less about frequency. So no battery packs required. So the water is heated , but not to a very high temp, say 150 DEG F. From there the water is circulated through hot water base board heaters controlled by a thermostat. I think it could augment conventional heating systems. I have not worked out the specifics. It's simpler and a lot less dangerous then trying to produce and store Hydrogen. I do believe Hydrogen is the fuel of the future. Hell it should have been here 20 yrs ago.
Second on a larger scale. I was reading that in some area's of the world, tide activity varied by as much as 25 ft . Can you imagine building a walled tidal basin that would retain the water from high tide then release it at low tide through a turbine system. The turbines could work in both directions. Just some thoughts on a rainy Sunday morning.

[Jim H.]

You don't use pure distilled water.
I just can't figure how to control the out put from the bubbler to carb.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/938147...usehold_items/

[clint]

Eagle Keeper

As mentioned before changing the chemistry is always a loosing battle, you would be much better of to use the suns heating power to heat the water, or a glycol fluid used as a heat exchanging source than you would not have to spend the money on the wind powered conversion. I have plans off the net, mixed with a few of my own to build a solar powered water heater, I just never got around to it with my many other projects including a 4 year old little girl who is my princess, and a 9 year old boy who ask 101 million gazillion questions about everything hotrod, lawn mower, tractor etc.... it will not be long and I reckon it will be women ?

Here is a link to a site that will keep you busy for awhile if you interested in capturing free-to very cheap energy. http://www.builditsolar.com/

[Eagle Keeper]

Believe me Clint, when I build the windmill, it won't be expensive. I can scrounge up about everything I need. I'm not a fan of passive solar energy for one reason. It's ugly. To be most effective it has to be in the wide open spaces. If there was a way to incorporate it into the landscaping that would be better. Also the expense of glycol and heat exchangers. I just ordered two 20 Watt 12 Volt (Monocrystalline) Cells for the Feather Craft. They even look cool, like louvers.

[RPalmer]

Short story just to make a point. When I was in college one day in physics 101 we did conductivity tests with different liquids. Of every liquid we tried distilled water had the least. As I remember (oh god) it had almost zero conductivity. Later that day in a shop class the instructor said we were going to make a devise to free hydrogen from water by inducing a current in distilled water and the free hydrogen would get sucked into the intake and help power the engine. He then laid out the plan. I must have had a stupid look on my face because he looked at me and said what is the problem? I stuttered a bit not knowing what to say. Finally I said "Is this a test?" When he asked what I meant, I explained about the tests we had done earlier. Feeling a bit braver I said you should at least try it with saltwater. End of Story. Don't get discouraged. It won't work but if you pay attention to what you are doing.. you'll learn something.

[jcrews]

Hello
I don't mean to get back in to this but since distilled water won't conduct electricity isn't that why you add the baking soda to it?( I still don't plan to do this)

[RPalmer]

I think the windmill is viable. I have often thought, not for long, of farming methane to use for about free energy. I always give up at the point where it would be collected and stored. As you all know the raw material is everywhere:biggrin2.gif:. Great discussion guys.