Can a Sleeve hitch be converted to a Three-Point hitch?

[crazicrow]

Randy,
I have been using tractordata to try and help and it showed the 105 as having a "Cub Cadet three-point" as an option. Seeing as what you mentioned (Which im more so inclined to believe) I am no wondering if that is actually so as its the largest basis for bidding on this 105. If tractordata is in fact incorrect then I would rather wait and find another. I know im doing it to myself, but the not so complicated, yet complicated list i'm trying to stick with is as follows:
min. 10 hp, hydrostatic, three-point hitch at least 25-30 years old, preferably under $800

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by crazicrow

However it now raised the question that tractordata shows the 105 as one of the few with the "cub cadet three point" option

ALL of the Cub Cadet garden tractors were available with a Cub Cadet 3 point. ALL of them..... The later GT's (1984 ish) and up were available with a Cat 0 hitch. At that time, the "sleeve hitch" was dropped.

[crazicrow]

Ok, thats actually what I was first thinking, but second guessed it. I was thinking I would end up cutting off and re configuring the points on the attachments and likely getting the bars from a cat 1 hitch and cutting and welding them to the cat 0 bars or some combination of both

[crazicrow]

thanks for the heads up. I'm thinking to leave this 105 alone then and look for one of the gt's you mentioned. I find it rather amazing that there aren't conversions from sleeve to three-point for the machines. or readily available loaders for all of these garden tractors seeing that in my own experience it seems there is a high demand for them

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by crazicrow

Ok, thats actually what I was first thinking, but second guessed it. I was thinking I would end up cutting off and re configuring the points on the attachments and likely getting the bars from a cat 1 hitch and cutting and welding them to the cat 0 bars or some combination of both

Then you will have done all that work and find out you can barely lift the implement, let alone the implement with anything on it.

Better look for a SCUT (sub compact utility tractor)....... or at the very least, a tractor with hydraulic lift and 3pt. From the sounds of it, you need a loader tractor.

[crazicrow]

just to be sure i get it the cub cadet three-point is really a sleeve hitch then, correct. However xtreme makes an actual three-point (cat o) that would fit on any narrow frame cub.

[vr4Legacy]

Originally Posted by crazicrow

just to be sure i get it the cub cadet three-point is really a sleeve hitch then, correct. However xtreme makes an actual three-point (cat o) that would fit on any narrow frame cub.

3 pt hitch simply means there are 3 points of attachment. The lift bar and 2 lower points. Cat 0 up standardized the measurements and pin sizes.

I may be wrong, but I believe a sleeve hitch is an additional piece that connects to the 3 point.

But as J-Mech has said, for what you want to do, you need a bigger tractor.

The rear lifts were meant to lift implements. Not heavy items.

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by crazicrow

just to be sure i get it the cub cadet three-point is really a sleeve hitch then, correct. However xtreme makes an actual three-point (cat o) that would fit on any narrow frame cub.

Yes.

Basically the cub cadet 3pt needed an adapter to work with "industry standard" sleeve hitch implements. IH offered a tiller, rear blade/ rake combo and a box blade that only work with the IH hitch. IH didn’t even offer the adapter, Brinly did. It's kind of confusing if you aren't familiar with it.

[crazicrow]

yes quite confusing. it doesn't at all help that I live in a place where these are rare items so I can't even just go see the two physically to know the difference. I'm good with creativity/fabrication and was looking for the three based on what i was able to gather from reading. That seemed to say the three-point was three individual links (one for stability and two for lifting) and the sleeve was a single link for lifting with a "U" shaped bar that provided two other points of attachment for stability. The individuals supposedly are better for moving over varied terrain where as supposedly the sleeve would be to rigid for say going up/down an incline on an angle. Again this is only what i've gathered from reading. I have a small 60x100 lot in surburbia so I need something tiny in size (beyond expense sub compact is physically to big as I need to pass through an area 50" wide). My first intention was to get a garden tractor and make my own loader (I figured i could do it for about $1300-1500) then saw the attachments and thought that might be easier. There is always the thought of just modifying a tow cart to a dolly and at least removing the carrying part from the back equation, lol

[crazicrow]

I looked at a sears super 12 locally but it needed much work and id rather hydro. Now after your helpful advice im considering a cub 109 on ebay with plow, chains, and weights for $700. Price does seem a bit high though and its a 7hr drive away. If nothing else I'm getting a good education here and that is priceless. thanks