Trying to be excited about my new PTO but instead...boom...

[x.bhamcb]

I don't have much experience with these, so this may be a crazy idea. Is it possible that the heat from the failed PTO damaged the crank bearing on that side? If that is the case it may be a fairly easy fix.

[darkminion_17]

There is no bearing .
Ryan,
Maybe you just overheated the engine letting it idle for so long.

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by x.bhamcb

I don't have much experience with these, so this may be a crazy idea. Is it possible that the heat from the failed PTO damaged the crank bearing on that side? If that is the case it may be a fairly easy fix.

Even if it did, which is very unlikely, that IS NOT even close to an easy fix. That's major surgery.

Ryan, pull that new PTO off and see if the problem goes away.

[jimbob200521]

Originally Posted by PACubCadet

Seems like your luck is about equivalent to mine half the time. Sorry to hear that your motor took a long vacation, but on the bright side you have a brand new PTO?

New PTO is the bright side but the brighter side will be once I'm satisfied it didn't get damaged!

Originally Posted by ol'George

Do a little more checking before you give it up for "done blowed up" as they say in nascar.
It is possible the new PTO is amiss somehow???
oil/dipstick on an engine @ operating temp, is nothing you want to touch.

I agree oil at operating temp is a no no but trust me when I say it was much much hotter than it should have been. Let's just say I'm surprised the plastic air filter housing didn't get disfigured from the heat

Originally Posted by Berwil

Agreed. I just had pto issues on my 1450, whole tractor started shaking, I slowed the engine down and it died, went to crank and it was locked up. Since you just worked on the pto, I'd at least pull it off and see if it spins.

Bill

Originally Posted by Terry C

I'm with George. It's worth a try removing the PTO first

I do plan on double checking the PTO when I do the swap since I want to eliminate that but I'm personally pretty sure it's not the cause/issue. I can spin the pulley on the PTO by hand now but I know there's another bearing to check so I will do my checks before I write that off completely

Originally Posted by darkminion_17

What they said.
But! we need pics of the 2544 before you remove it's heart.

Now why would you want pics of that 2544? I've actually worked on it in the past, but the guy got a new mower and new I was interested in his so I guess I got dibs on it. I don't remember how many hours were on it but it wasn't so many that it scared me off. Body is in ok shape, but the deck is pretty much trash. That's why he got a new mower, the deck was having so many issues with belts, pulleys, alignment, etc that he got tired of messing with it.

Originally Posted by Dirty Steve

If engine truly seized, that sucks big time. Congrats on the cheap 2544!

Thank you!

Originally Posted by darkminion_17

There is no bearing .
Ryan,
Maybe you just overheated the engine letting it idle for so long.

Overheated the engine by idling it too long? Not sure if serious or lew humor

But just in case, when it died the first time I had just finished a pass mowing and pulled up to the garage. When I started to reduce throttle so I could park and get off, it made a little grunting noise and died. I checked the gas thinking that may be it and it was low but I remember thinking it wasn't low enough that it should have died. I shrugged it off and topped the tank off. Then I tried to fire it back up and it grunted and shot some smoke out (too much choke? I'm giving the ol' girl the benefit of the doubt here...) but it eventually popped off and started. I left the deck off and the throttle about 1/3 or so and went inside for a few minutes. When I came back out, it was dead so I don't know if it made any noises or what, but that, as they say, is all she wrote.

[jimbob200521]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

Even if it did, which is very unlikely, that IS NOT even close to an easy fix. That's major surgery.

Ryan, pull that new PTO off and see if the problem goes away.

On the to-do list

On a side note, and don't ask me how I got this thought going through my head, but the spacer that goes between the PTO and engine; is that just for belt alignment or is there another purpose to it?

[J-Mech]

Keeps the PTO the right distance from the engine block.

[Shrewcub]

Originally Posted by jimbob200521

On the to-do list

On a side note, and don't ask me how I got this thought going through my head, but the spacer that goes between the PTO and engine; is that just for belt alignment or is there another purpose to it?

It is not for belt alignment. It spaces the stator coil far enough from the block and provides preload for the bearings.

Please, tell me you didn't forget to put it on?

[jimbob200521]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

Keeps the PTO the right distance from the engine block.

Originally Posted by Shrewcub

It is not for belt alignment. It spaces the stator coil far enough from the block and provides preload for the bearings.

Please, tell me you didn't forget to put it on?

I'm going back through my steps last night and I honestly can't remember. I'm 99% sure I did but I'll find out for sure soon enough

Edit: Even if I did, the thing had less less than 30 minutes of run time on it. I agree if I forgot it that that equals bad but I doubt it'd equal that bad that quick

[CubDieselFan]

[jimbob200521]

Originally Posted by CubDieselFan

You and me both...tomorrow will be a big day for Cub guys everywhere!