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Old 12-14-2013, 06:54 PM
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Yeah, that looks like it.
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Old 12-14-2013, 07:40 PM
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Your switch is bad. I had the same problem with my 1450. I took the switch apart and cleaned the contacts and it has worked good for the last three years.
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Put the the 36 inch snow thrower on today and noticed the PTO works only intermittently.

If the PTO switch is on, the tractor will not start so I know that part of the puzzle is still correct.

Why it shut off when running and now not start I need help on

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Old 12-20-2013, 07:10 PM
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Thanks Roland for the chart. Please HELP!

received new switch, put it in, and still nothing for PTO working, WE have alot of snow on ground and predicted 16 more inches this weekend!

I may have now an extra "good" switch i will mail to who can help me get my 1650 pto working



My 1650 has to plastic housing terminals that plug into the pto switch. one has 3 terminals so it can't be plugged in wrong (although it has only 2 wires in it. I believe the A terminal on Rolands chart is empty from a wire, maybe it' s the "E" terminal I have to look again in daylight out there)

I have the other plastic plug with 2 wires( orange and red) the red goes into the "u" terminal in my pic. No pto working when I activate switch back and forth with tractor running. Tried flipping the red and orange terminal and still nothing. this is frustrating for sure!

Please help!
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Old 12-20-2013, 07:29 PM
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Hmmmm couple of things come to mind...

Can you take the switch out and make sure the contacts show 0 ohms resistance closed and infinity when open?

Also, check the PTO fuse, fuse holder and connections. A fuse should not be intermittent, but I don't rule out anything as impossible. I have seen the wire at the spade terminal corrode until the only thing holding it in was the crimp on the insulation....no electrical contact.

One more...I have heard that a dirty or rusty connection between the actual PTO clutch assembly and engine can cause oddball problems like the one you have

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Old 12-20-2013, 07:36 PM
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With the switch in the "on" position, you may need an extra hand here, try wiggling the main key switch harness from behind. This may also be an issue with the connector at the front of the tractor that connects the PTO lead itself or the wire at the very point where it goes into the coil.

Also check the fuse...Duhh!! as well as the clutch/safety switch for proper operation. These things can be a real PITA and I would most likely suspect dirty/rusted/broken terminals at these locations. Could also be bad ground or loose mount bolts between the PTO assembly and the engine block itself.

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Old 12-21-2013, 02:12 AM
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Hmmmm couple of things come to mind...

Can you take the switch out and make sure the contacts show 0 ohms resistance closed and infinity when open?

Also, check the PTO fuse, fuse holder and connections. A fuse should not be intermittent, but I don't rule out anything as impossible. I have seen the wire at the spade terminal corrode until the only thing holding it in was the crimp on the insulation....no electrical contact.

One more...I have heard that a dirty or rusty connection between the actual PTO clutch assembly and engine can cause oddball problems like the one you have

Hope this helps

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I did not know there was a fuse under the dash for PTO? I have a fuse on the face panel, but my headlights are working fine so I never checked that fuse
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My 800 doesn't have lights,but the panel fuse is for the PTO circuit
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Old 12-21-2013, 09:42 AM
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There should be 2 fuses on the 1650 panel.
One for the light circuit and one for the PTO.
Do you have an empty hole there? Maybe a PO had fuse problems and eliminated it.
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Old 12-21-2013, 10:24 AM
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I did not know there was a fuse under the dash for PTO? I have a fuse on the face panel, but my headlights are working fine so I never checked that fuse
I got the exact same problem, since my cub sit outside for 7 years under a balcony, I restore all switch and wiring, the only parts I didn't change was the fuses older, guess what....This fuse older need to be replace (The top one is for the PTO), I use a 10A/12V breaker switch instead, problem resolved
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Old 12-21-2013, 12:29 PM
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thank you everyone for posting areas to check. A PO for sure did some wiring on this, which is why things are different a bit. I have only one fuse, and its for the lights

I looked under the dash after moving the tank, and cant see any under the dash any band-aid fuse setup added to PTO system!!

checked the wiring connection at front of tractor by electric PTO connect. cleaned and replaced spade connect, still nothing

the PTO switch works when its on for NOT starting tractor, but that is all its good for, even the new switch wonder if lack of fuse is doing something

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