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Old 10-02-2013, 06:50 PM
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Using the wrong gauge results in too tight a spring setting, the correct one is 3/32 less in height.
Thanks. Guess I'll see if I can find a WF tool. Will pull the PTO back off tomorrow and see if the springs will come back flat till I can get it right.
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What about making one

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=9

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Last time I needed one I did my homework and ensured I got the NF gauge for a NF clutch, then posted a WTB ad on the forum and someone mailed me one. They make all the difference. I tried fudging it without one before and it 1) slipped and 2) I almost lost a throwout lever because the nuts came loose.
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I'll probably post in the wanted section after I make sure my local dealer doesn't have one tucked away somewhere in his garage.

I don't have to tools to make one or to fit perfectly. The one I got looks to be stamped from thin stainless.
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Here are photos of both gauges. The narrower gauge is for the Narrow Frame, which has the springs with the bent tips (kit 759-3490).The wider gauge is for the Wide Frame with springs with flat tips (kit 759-3489). On the superimposed photo you can see how the Wide Frame gauge will cause the center wear button to be 3/32" higher, and thus less spring tension.

I've had problems with the flat tip springs on my Wide Frame, so I used the Narrow Frame kit with the proper gauge, and it has worked fine for years.

If you want a Wide Frame gauge I can mail you my extra gauge, just reimburse my postage.
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Here are photos of both gauges. The narrower gauge is for the Narrow Frame, which has the springs with the bent tips (kit 759-3490).The wider gauge is for the Wide Frame with springs with flat tips (kit 759-3489). On the superimposed photo you can see how the Wide Frame gauge will cause the center wear button to be 3/32" higher, and thus less spring tension.

I've had problems with the flat tip springs on my Wide Frame, so I used the Narrow Frame kit with the proper gauge, and it has worked fine for years.

If you want a Wide Frame gauge I can mail you my extra gauge, just reimburse my postage.
So you are saying you used a NF PTO unit instead of a WF? I've never really had issues with the flat springs, but I do like how the NF springs fit into the NF outer plate better. I would be more than happy to pay you for any charges and adjustment tool. I need to have one on hand for future use. I have another WF PTO I plan on rebuilding too. I'll PM you my info.
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About ten years ago I had to rebuild my PTO clutch on my 149. I recall the center wear button was worn out. So I got the wide frame kit and afterwards I couldn't get the fingers and springs to stay in place for more than a few minutes of use. Maybe my bronze button was hitting off center and causing the steel button to knock one of the three fingers out of the groove? So after going through two wide frame kits I decided to try a narrow frame kit.

What I found is that the bent tips of the NF kit springs helped to keep the three fingers and center button in place. These bent spring tips cannot go any further than the inside edge of the PTO pulley, but the flat tips of the wide frame springs can slide across the top edge of the PTO pulley.

The WF gauge will be in tomorrows mail to you.
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Thanks again Roy.
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