Only Cub Cadets

PLEASE PATRONIZE OUR SPONSORS!

CC Specialties R. F. Houtz and Sons Jeff in Pa.

P&K Cub Cadet Machtech Direct

Cub Cadet Parts & Service


If you would like to help maintain this site & enhance it, feel free to donate whatever amount you would like to!




Go Back   Only Cub Cadets > Cub Cadets > IH Cub Cadet Tractors (GT)

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 05-24-2013, 06:42 PM
fleetlines's Avatar
fleetlines fleetlines is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 365
Default

She fired right up on starting fluid. I may have done the carb already but I'll do it again anyway since it sat so long so I didn't bother with gas. As I recall the points were replaced (or just reset) and I decarboned it already. I believe I shaved the head also. I'll have to open it up to check I guess.
I've been soaking the steering wheel the last few days. I'll need to give that a try soon. It steers alright but it's time it was serviced from what I've seen with some of yours. I'll remove the tower but I don't want to split it if I can avoid it. I don't know of any reason to split it. Is there something I should service that requires me splitting it?
When I have the back end open and the shifter off, can I use a power washer to get it glean in there? Should I use kerosine? The rust particles are my concern. Maybe I should run it with some cheap hydro fluid a couple times to flush it? I won't miss the fluid. I've never done more than change the fluids in there and could really use some advice.
__________________
Original, Serial #44578, K161S Serial #659144, 3pt. w/ Spring Assist, Deck, Fenders, Lights
72, Serial #231093, K161S Serial #C281773, 36" deck
149 & Original Yard art
1650, Serial #2050067U559932*, K341 Serial #7133367, 3 pt. hitch
1650, Serial #2050670U601762*, K341 Serial #7584702 SIM cab, 50" deck, tires loaded & weighted
123 FEL and weight box
10" & 12" Brinley Plow, Decks, Roller, Cart, Power angle blade, dozer blade, Snow Thrower, Airator, Tiller
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-24-2013, 07:40 PM
PaulS's Avatar
PaulS PaulS is offline
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: PA
Posts: 1,642
Default

Wow Curtis when you start nothing stops you. We bought a 2072 that the rear hydro fluid was like light chocolate milk. We are planning on putting some cheap hydro fluid in and run a bit and change again just to get as much of that watered down fluid out as possible. After turkey season is over I may come over to see you.
__________________
With my son, EricR Super 2084 with 54" mower, 451 blower. 2086 with 3 pt hitch, 54 inch deck, 551 blower, 54 in brinly blade. A 4 digit original w deck. A 70 with deck. 2 102s both with 42 in decks, one with creeper, 1 36 inch IH snow thrower CW36, 1 42 inch IH blade. 149 with mower. 2072 w 3 pt hitch, Johnny bucket, 60 in mower, 451 blower. Jacobson GT 10 with mower. DR Lawn vac tow behind,Home made lawn roller. Brinly cart, 2 off brand carts and 1 home made cart.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-24-2013, 08:10 PM
fleetlines's Avatar
fleetlines fleetlines is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 365
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS View Post
Wow Curtis when you start nothing stops you. We bought a 2072 that the rear hydro fluid was like light chocolate milk. We are planning on putting some cheap hydro fluid in and run a bit and change again just to get as much of that watered down fluid out as possible. After turkey season is over I may come over to see you.
Chocolate milk? I wonder if they used HyTran.
I have a couple gallons of cheap fluid. I think I'll run it through a couple times or more unless someone chimes in with a better solution. I suppose I should get it going with gas so I can flush it out before painting. I'll be spraying it with an air paint sprayer this time using Majic paint, reducer and hardener.

It will be nice to see you again. Actually, I hope Eric isn't to busy to weld a couple things for me so I may get out there first. I shot him a PM last night. I need that seat and deck welded on this O and a jack welded to my trailer tongue.
__________________
Original, Serial #44578, K161S Serial #659144, 3pt. w/ Spring Assist, Deck, Fenders, Lights
72, Serial #231093, K161S Serial #C281773, 36" deck
149 & Original Yard art
1650, Serial #2050067U559932*, K341 Serial #7133367, 3 pt. hitch
1650, Serial #2050670U601762*, K341 Serial #7584702 SIM cab, 50" deck, tires loaded & weighted
123 FEL and weight box
10" & 12" Brinley Plow, Decks, Roller, Cart, Power angle blade, dozer blade, Snow Thrower, Airator, Tiller
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-24-2013, 09:12 PM
fleetlines's Avatar
fleetlines fleetlines is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 365
Default

It ran on gasoline. Took a little cranking but not to much. No choke got it running so I doubt I put a kit in last time around. I'll not get anything done to it from tomorrow afternoon till at least Monday.
__________________
Original, Serial #44578, K161S Serial #659144, 3pt. w/ Spring Assist, Deck, Fenders, Lights
72, Serial #231093, K161S Serial #C281773, 36" deck
149 & Original Yard art
1650, Serial #2050067U559932*, K341 Serial #7133367, 3 pt. hitch
1650, Serial #2050670U601762*, K341 Serial #7584702 SIM cab, 50" deck, tires loaded & weighted
123 FEL and weight box
10" & 12" Brinley Plow, Decks, Roller, Cart, Power angle blade, dozer blade, Snow Thrower, Airator, Tiller
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 05-28-2013, 05:05 PM
fleetlines's Avatar
fleetlines fleetlines is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 365
Default

I cleaned the rear as best I could. I still hadn't recycled the HyTran from my last change, which wasn't too bad, so I used it to flush out the rear end. I think it was rust from the shifter plate that fell during the power wash. The pics looked worse than it really was. I'm content with calling it clean now.

After tightening the drive belt it climbed a steep hill in third. It didn't seem to have the speed on level ground though. I'm used to the 1650 which tops at 8 mph and the 72 which tops at 6.8 mph. The 72 was rebuilt by a PO to be a puller. I don't know if anything concerning speed was messed with. The O is supposed to be 6.9 mph so we'll have to see how that plays out. It wasn't full of fluid for the flush and little "test" drive but it was close enough I thought. It also rolls easy enough so it's not that the wheels need greased. I don't think the clutch slipped since it climbed that hill. I'm hopeful it's just carbon. I don't believe I decarboned this engine as I had thought. I'm anxious to open it up to see it's condition.

The clutch did not fully release unless it was already in a gear. That needs adjusted.

I want to relocate the coil. This mount isn't right but I would feel better with it on the tower.

Still wondering if I should split the tractor. Splitting it sounded daunting but what I read on it didn't seem bad but I've never split one before. Unless there is a speed issue to address there I don't see any reason to.

Pulling the engine and steering wheel will be next when it's done draining.

Pic 1 is the deck. Pic 2 & 3 are the seat. 4 shows the coil mount.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1001373.jpg (36.7 KB, 142 views)
File Type: jpg 1001381.jpg (35.8 KB, 142 views)
File Type: jpg 1001382.jpg (21.6 KB, 141 views)
File Type: jpg 1001376.jpg (31.1 KB, 141 views)
__________________
Original, Serial #44578, K161S Serial #659144, 3pt. w/ Spring Assist, Deck, Fenders, Lights
72, Serial #231093, K161S Serial #C281773, 36" deck
149 & Original Yard art
1650, Serial #2050067U559932*, K341 Serial #7133367, 3 pt. hitch
1650, Serial #2050670U601762*, K341 Serial #7584702 SIM cab, 50" deck, tires loaded & weighted
123 FEL and weight box
10" & 12" Brinley Plow, Decks, Roller, Cart, Power angle blade, dozer blade, Snow Thrower, Airator, Tiller
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 05-28-2013, 10:36 PM
fleetlines's Avatar
fleetlines fleetlines is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 365
Default

Some debris was found in the fins. No surprise there. The head gasket looked to have melted. Carbon was fairly thick where it was but I've seen much worse. The piston was stamped 30 over already. I didn't measure the bore and don't know if I still have a tool to do so. The pics of the bore portray it well. Now the head It has a crack - but it does not extend into where the gasket is yet so I think I'll still use it for now. I think I'll check the gap and reseat the valves. Give it a new head gasket and points (if needed) and run it as it is. I didn't get to try the steering wheel yet.

I have an engine out of a 149. Condition is unknown. Thinking I may look into repowering it with that.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1001402.jpg (30.0 KB, 136 views)
File Type: jpg 1001403.jpg (26.8 KB, 136 views)
File Type: jpg 1001411.jpg (29.4 KB, 136 views)
File Type: jpg 1001412.jpg (23.6 KB, 136 views)
File Type: jpg 1001417.jpg (26.2 KB, 135 views)
File Type: jpg 1001446.jpg (29.1 KB, 135 views)
File Type: jpg 1001444.jpg (18.4 KB, 135 views)
File Type: jpg 1001442.jpg (10.9 KB, 135 views)
File Type: jpg 1001443.jpg (19.1 KB, 135 views)
File Type: jpg 1001440.jpg (21.6 KB, 135 views)
__________________
Original, Serial #44578, K161S Serial #659144, 3pt. w/ Spring Assist, Deck, Fenders, Lights
72, Serial #231093, K161S Serial #C281773, 36" deck
149 & Original Yard art
1650, Serial #2050067U559932*, K341 Serial #7133367, 3 pt. hitch
1650, Serial #2050670U601762*, K341 Serial #7584702 SIM cab, 50" deck, tires loaded & weighted
123 FEL and weight box
10" & 12" Brinley Plow, Decks, Roller, Cart, Power angle blade, dozer blade, Snow Thrower, Airator, Tiller
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 05-28-2013, 10:56 PM
fleetlines's Avatar
fleetlines fleetlines is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 365
Default

I almost forgot. The bolt holding the governor was loose and literally let the throttle cable come off in my hand as soon as I touched it to disconnect it. I'm hopeful that is my ground speed issue. Not that it was extremely slow. I've never messed with governor either. It's time I learn.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1001393.jpg (26.1 KB, 130 views)
__________________
Original, Serial #44578, K161S Serial #659144, 3pt. w/ Spring Assist, Deck, Fenders, Lights
72, Serial #231093, K161S Serial #C281773, 36" deck
149 & Original Yard art
1650, Serial #2050067U559932*, K341 Serial #7133367, 3 pt. hitch
1650, Serial #2050670U601762*, K341 Serial #7584702 SIM cab, 50" deck, tires loaded & weighted
123 FEL and weight box
10" & 12" Brinley Plow, Decks, Roller, Cart, Power angle blade, dozer blade, Snow Thrower, Airator, Tiller
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 05-30-2013, 12:24 PM
C5rider C5rider is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: FL
Posts: 356
Default

Great to see these ol' girls still coming around!

That 14hp (out of the 149) should fit in there, but you might have some issues with the gas tank. Mine has a 10-horse Kohler in it and I needed to modify the mount on mine to put it more between the engine blower housing and the battery. I also installed a smaller battery, but not sure that it was necessary. Check and see. I REALLY like these "O"s. They're simple and versitile and fun to play with!

Keep us informed!
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 05-30-2013, 02:42 PM
fleetlines's Avatar
fleetlines fleetlines is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 365
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by C5rider View Post
Great to see these ol' girls still coming around!

That 14hp (out of the 149) should fit in there, but you might have some issues with the gas tank. Mine has a 10-horse Kohler in it and I needed to modify the mount on mine to put it more between the engine blower housing and the battery. I also installed a smaller battery, but not sure that it was necessary. Check and see. I REALLY like these "O"s. They're simple and versitile and fun to play with!

Keep us informed!
Last night I tried the steering wheel with no success and cut some gaskets for the rear so I could put the covers back on to keep the dirt out. I wasn't to aggressive with the wheel. As you can see, it needs to come off. The second pic is what fell off the gov. when I touched it. I need to find a wright-up on the gov. and want to get the underside power washed today.

I don't have the $ to put into this engine right now. That's why I'm not doing much with it. I'll get this resleaved or repower it later. I'd rather take the K161 from the 72 for the O and put the 14 hp in the 72 if it comes to that. I'm not particular in that it doesn't get modified but I'd like to keep it as close as I can to how they rolled off the line.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1001449.jpg (21.5 KB, 114 views)
File Type: jpg 1001448.jpg (16.5 KB, 113 views)
__________________
Original, Serial #44578, K161S Serial #659144, 3pt. w/ Spring Assist, Deck, Fenders, Lights
72, Serial #231093, K161S Serial #C281773, 36" deck
149 & Original Yard art
1650, Serial #2050067U559932*, K341 Serial #7133367, 3 pt. hitch
1650, Serial #2050670U601762*, K341 Serial #7584702 SIM cab, 50" deck, tires loaded & weighted
123 FEL and weight box
10" & 12" Brinley Plow, Decks, Roller, Cart, Power angle blade, dozer blade, Snow Thrower, Airator, Tiller
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 05-30-2013, 03:12 PM
C5rider C5rider is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: FL
Posts: 356
Default

My one Original's steering wheel was installed by the Hulk. It was TIGHT!

i used a pulley puller with a good bit of pressure on the shaft. i tighten it just about to the point where it'll let go somewhere, then I smack the puller with a pretty good sized hammer. It may make some guys shiver on here, but I've smacked it pretty good to get 'em to move sometimes.

I've heard of guys just using their knees and tapping with a hammer. I'm envious.

Once you've got that puller tight (I mean TIGHT) and smack it with the hammer, it's amazing what moves! Just my experience. Your mileage may vary.

Good luck.
__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:42 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

Cub Cadet is a premium line of outdoor power equipment, established in 1961 as part of International Harvester. During the 1960s, IH initiated an entirely new line of lawn and garden equipment aimed at the owners rural homes with large yards and private gardens. There were a wide variety of Cub Cadet branded and after-market attachments available; including mowers, blades, snow blowers, front loaders, plows, carts, etc. Cub Cadet advertising at that time harped on their thorough testing by "boys - acknowledged by many as the world's worst destructive force!". Cub Cadets became known for their dependability and rugged construction.

MTD Products, Inc. of Cleveland, Ohio purchased the Cub Cadet brand from International Harvester in 1981. Cub Cadet was held as a wholly owned subsidiary for many years following this acquisition, which allowed them to operate independently. Recently, MTD has taken a more aggressive role and integrated Cub Cadet into its other lines of power equipment.

This website and forum are not affiliated with or sponsored by MTD Products Inc, which owns the CUB CADET trademarks. It is not an official MTD Products Inc, website, and MTD Products Inc, is not responsible for any of its content. The official MTD Products Inc, website can be found at: http://www.mtdproducts.com. The information and opinions expressed on this website are the responsibility of the website's owner and/or it's members, and do not represent the opinions of MTD Products Inc. IH, INTERNATIONAL HARVESTER are registered trademark of CNH America LLC

All material, images, and graphics from this site are the property of www.onlycubcadets.net. Any unauthorized use, reproductions, or duplications are prohibited unless solely expressed in writing.

Cub Cadet, Cub, Cadet, IH, MTD, Parts, Tractors, Tractor, International Harvester, Lawn, Garden, Lawn Mower, Kohler, garden tractor equipment, lawn garden tractors, antique garden tractors, garden tractor, PTO, parts, online, Original, 70, 71, 72, 73, 76, SO76, 80, 81, 86, 100, 102, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108,109, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 147, 149, 169, 182, 282, 382, 482, 580, 582, 582 Special, 680, 682, 782, 782D, 784, 800, 805, 882, 982, 984, 986, 1000, 1015, 1100, 1105, 1110, 1200, 1250, 1282, 1450, 1512, 1604, 1605, 1606, 1610, 1615, 1620, 1650, 1710, 1711, 1712, 1806, 1810, 1811, 1812, 1912, 1914.